Duffman's PT Leage Observations

I find it weird that Mike G or any parent would choose to attend his/her son's summer league game. I know Mike's a fan like we all are, but in these situations staying away is the correct answer. Regular games are one thing.

I don't know Matt or his local rep. I would like him to realize he's not cut out to be a primary scoring option, plus I would like him to put the words "pull up jumper" in his vocabulary.

When I played in youth and even high school, my parents came to one or two games a season. I liked it that way. Really didn't need the extra pressure of my parents. Had to learn the same lesson with my kid. Soccer, Hockey, baseball, Mom's and Dad's need to get a life.
 
When I played in youth and even high school, my parents came to one or two games a season. I liked it that way. Really didn't need the extra pressure of my parents. Had to learn the same lesson with my kid. Soccer, Hockey, baseball, Mom's and Dad's need to get a life.

Wow, I can't imagine not having my parents' support in sports. Sorry to hear that.
 
When I played in youth and even high school, my parents came to one or two games a season. I liked it that way. Really didn't need the extra pressure of my parents. Had to learn the same lesson with my kid. Soccer, Hockey, baseball, Mom's and Dad's need to get a life.

Wow, that sounds like a pretty ****** childhood. I'm sorry you lacked you're parents love and support.
 
i weep when i think of what would be happening had we waited another year to fire Lick.

Props to barta for recognizing his mistake and making it right.

Seemed to be about 95% of this board was in this same camp. I wanted Lick gone real bad, and I cannot count how many people said I wasn't a true fan. It was pretty damn obvious after the first two years (includes off seasons) that the Lick experiment was an epic fail.

Fran knows how to run a program where Lick had absolutely no clue or desire to know how to do that.
 
IMHO that's even worse. Be there as your son's father and his team's sponsor and act professionally, not as a jackhole.

Some of the guys that I play with now, played with Gatens in high school. They said he would sit behind the bench and yell at City High's coaches during games. That is not ok.
 
To horribly change the Gatens family bashing I love seeing that Jason Price is still in ptl still balling. JP is my favorite Hawkeye he ref'ed my Y league basketball games when he was at MCC. Next year he was working the Iowa bball camp and sought me out after one of my games. I wasn't very good and it ment the world to me. He gave me some of his overseas gear a few years later after he graduated and saw me at camp. Talk about never giving up your dream. JP!!!! sorry to waste your time and to stop Gatens bashing
 
This whole talk about Gatens is nice and all...but I really just wanted to see this Basabe dunk that Duff is speaking of and found it.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKXhVg4Zdio[/ame]
 
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Nice find on the dunk highlight. For those of you who subscribe to mediacom or have an over-the-air HD tuner, it looks like KCRG Channel 9.2 is planning to broadcast the Tuesday night PTL game at 7pm I believe.
 
That is the dunk. It was even more impressive from the other side of the court. From this angle its hard to appreciate how fast he was jumping away from the basket when he caught the ball and threw it down behind his head.
 
When I played in youth and even high school, my parents came to one or two games a season. I liked it that way. Really didn't need the extra pressure of my parents. Had to learn the same lesson with my kid. Soccer, Hockey, baseball, Mom's and Dad's need to get a life.

Wow. My Mom and Dad made it to all but one game of mine until I graduated high school. They also made it to nearly all of each of my 4 brothers' games. Football, basketball, baseball - they made almost all of them. My parents missed one during my junior year in HS due to an emergency room visit when my Dad had a gall bladder "attack".

My wife and I, in turn, made it to all of our son's basketball, soccer and baseball games from the first ones when he was 6-7-8 years old until he graduated HS. Same with our daughter. And it wasn't limited to just sports - our kids were involved in band, choir and drama and we went to all those as well. You take the time to have the kids you should make the time to raise them; that includes watching them in events that they have worked so hard to master skills.
 
Wow. My Mom and Dad made it to all but one game of mine until I graduated high school. They also made it to nearly all of each of my 4 brothers' games. Football, basketball, baseball - they made almost all of them. My parents missed one during my junior year in HS due to an emergency room visit when my Dad had a gall bladder "attack".

My wife and I, in turn, made it to all of our son's basketball, soccer and baseball games from the first ones when he was 6-7-8 years old until he graduated HS. Same with our daughter. And it wasn't limited to just sports - our kids were involved in band, choir and drama and we went to all those as well. You take the time to have the kids you should make the time to raise them; that includes watching them in events that they have worked so hard to master skills.

I agree with this approach; we did the same with our boys. I will admit I could be a jerk in the stands or on the sidelines to the officials when the boys were young but grew out of it in a couple years. You learn to cheer the good plays but shut up on bad ref calls and simply enjoy the game, even if it's tearing you up inside. No excuse to continue that sort of behavior when your kid's nearing the end of his college career ... and in a pick-up game at that.
 
Our sons and daughters certainly appreciate our support at their games. After all who else is going to keep the referees honest.

:)
 
Wow. My Mom and Dad made it to all but one game of mine until I graduated high school. They also made it to nearly all of each of my 4 brothers' games. Football, basketball, baseball - they made almost all of them. My parents missed one during my junior year in HS due to an emergency room visit when my Dad had a gall bladder "attack".

My wife and I, in turn, made it to all of our son's basketball, soccer and baseball games from the first ones when he was 6-7-8 years old until he graduated HS. Same with our daughter. And it wasn't limited to just sports - our kids were involved in band, choir and drama and we went to all those as well. You take the time to have the kids you should make the time to raise them; that includes watching them in events that they have worked so hard to master skills.

I know I take an alternate approach here. But I have seen the results of an overprotective, overattentive, approach to parenting on today's kids. Kids should be able to just play games without the pressure of a packet sideline of obsessive parents. I see too many kids just totally incapable of doing anything for themselves, due to helicopter parenting.

Now, I also have to admit that I grew up in California, where people have more to do with their lives than spend six nights a week watching grade school or high school sports.

As far as raising kids, I think it is my job to throw the ball around with my kids after school and on the weekend, help them with their homework, play games and such, go to the waterpark etc., make sure they have a relationaship with their extended family, help them develop spiritually, involve them in volunteer work, and be an example of a productive human being. I also think it is important to go watch them play the occasional game. But, I let the coach deal with the refs and run practice. Neither my kid, nor the rest of the team need me to do that.
 
Some parents are definitely obnoxious, Carr. They tend to make things unpleasant for others and are a distraction for everyone.

This is certainly a very good formula:

As far as raising kids, I think it is my job to throw the ball around with my kids after school and on the weekend, help them with their homework, play games and such, go to the waterpark etc., make sure they have a relationaship with their extended family, help them develop spiritually, involve them in volunteer work, and be an example of a productive human being. I also think it is important to go watch them play the occasional game. But, I let the coach deal with the refs and run practice. Neither my kid, nor the rest of the team need me to do that.
 
I agree with this approach; we did the same with our boys. I will admit I could be a jerk in the stands or on the sidelines to the officials when the boys were young but grew out of it in a couple years. You learn to cheer the good plays but shut up on bad ref calls and simply enjoy the game, even if it's tearing you up inside. No excuse to continue that sort of behavior when your kid's nearing the end of his college career ... and in a pick-up game at that.

Being a former high school basketball and baseball coach, I just kept my mouth shut at the games. I had my ideas and the coaches had theirs. I distanced myself from the coaches and just congratulated my kids performances good or bad. One thing I taught them at an early age is to play to win but not get caught up in negatives of losing. Seems to have served them well after their playing days were over.

And I agree - you should NEVER embarrass your kid by trash talking to a ref or another player. Your kid's game should do the talking.
 
Being a former high school basketball and baseball coach, I just kept my mouth shut at the games. I had my ideas and the coaches had theirs. I distanced myself from the coaches and just congratulated my kids performances good or bad. One thing I taught them at an early age is to play to win but not get caught up in negatives of losing. Seems to have served them well after their playing days were over.

And I agree - you should NEVER embarrass your kid by trash talking to a ref or another player. Your kid's game should do the talking.


Knight how easy is it to turn off the coaching mechanism while enjoying your childrens game? I've got a one year old and have been a varsity coach the past 15 years and that's one of my biggest fears for him when he grows up because I don't want to viewing things as a coach and would rather be able to turn that off and just enjoy the games.
 

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