tm3308
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You don't have to, but it doesn't mean you can't. Michael Jordan won't hesitate to tell you he's the best, especially if you dare to challenge him on that.
Dev: I was best B1G guard, not Stauskas
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You don't have to, but it doesn't mean you can't. Michael Jordan won't hesitate to tell you he's the best, especially if you dare to challenge him on that.
BLKNGOLD48
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I'd take Stauskas 10x out of 10. I think Dev is a helluva player, but this is silly.
Michael Jordan wasn't the best. He was pretty good though.
I wouldn't. Depends on the team. Marble is the superior on-ball player. He's got a better handle, ability to penetrate, play in the pick-n-roll. Stauskas is a superior off-ball player as a catch-n-shoot guy, a cutter, a slasher off close-outs.
As for the NBA, Marble is going to be below average as on-ball player. NBA teams won't let him dominate the ball, because guys like Ginobli, Parker, Diaw, Lebron, and D-Wade dominate the ball in the NBA. Stauskas' advantage is that, as a superior off-ball player, he's better suited to play next to those guys. He doesn't need the ball in his hands to do his thing. Marble, at this point, does.
But as far as college, Marble was pretty darn good on-ball player. We also needed his skillset more than we needed Stauskas' skill set given our roster. Marble and Gessell were the only guys that could even dribble last year.
MiniMoeHawk
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Give him until his senior year....He will be a good shooter and have an all around quality game by then.
MiniMoeHawk
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Stauskas has a few ankle breaking moves in his arsenal....He is no Tim Hardaway and a Utep 2 Step but he is still solid with the ball too. With his work ethic he should be a solid NBA pro
tiberius
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Guards take a couple years to develop...or is it the bigs like Woody? I try to read here and educate myself, but sometimes get confused.
jacknicholson
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I think it depends on the individual guard and the strength of the competition/conference. IIRC, Mike had a better freshman year, he was hitting threes better, moving the ball with a very good assist to TO ratio, I believe he hit about 80% of his free throws, but had the Sophomore jitters. It is somewhat common for some reason.....
I think he will be back to form next season. It very well could be his team, the little general, last year's team was Devyns.....
hawkeyebob62
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Laugh of the century. ANY century.
What is expressed in this June 7 RDM tweet is the attitude I think he expressed to his teammates while at Iowa:
"Kind of excited for Iowa Basketball (@IowaHoops) next year. Ready to see my bros' go crazy"
https://twitter.com/DMarble4/status/475369971208302592
I'm beginning to think it's the obvious Twittergate of McCabe that caused the dissension on the team last year.
If it caused such an uproar and conflict on the message boards, imagine what happened in the locker room.
jacknicholson
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I have a feeling this season will be Mike's turnaround, Moe.....
When he is on, he can run the team very well and he can nail threes better than last season. His free throw shooting should improve also. He hit around 80% his freshman year. The team itself should be improved. I believe they learned a lot from last season.....
Homer to the end....
It is pretty funny that someone would think jordan was the greatest player of all time. He was pretty good though.
99topdawg
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I concur and hit like button.
trj
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To play in the NBA you pretty much have to feel that way........If you do not feel that way you might as well make a living doing something else. I realize that type of arrogance turns people off, think about it, do you get your significant other by being insecure? The promotion? A little humility would be nice, but I am not going to kill dude for this.
The more I've thought about this the more I lean towards Stauskus having a better career in that the type of role he'll have in the league will be much easier for him to find and carve out. He'll have a role similar to a Ray Allen (todays Ray not 10 years ago) JJ Reddick, Kyle Korver type. If he's got a smart agent that's how they should advertise him. That role in todays NBA has value and alot of it. Marble I don't think is physical enough or a good enough shooter/scorer to do what he does best in the NBA. The things he did at Iowa he won't be able to do to get good looks. Marble never seemed as good at catching and shooting coming off screens as a 2 guard. He seems to like the ball in his hands and there is a learning curve if that's how you play going to the next level. Stauskus on the other hand will be getting set up. I think he's more athletic then JJ Reddick. He's taller jumps higher is way more physically put together. So if he can put the ball in the hole from 3 that'll never go out of style.
hawkeyebob62
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Not sure what's "funny' about it...because it isn't really that close. No Kareem-like center, no Bird-type forward, etc., as a teammate. No fan rallies for a Lebron-type joining him.
Jordan was pretty much it. Pippen was good help, Rodman was a great rebounder but beyond that, Jordan had average supporting cast. And his best asset may just have been his defensive prowess.
HawkeyeMike23
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LOL an average supporting cast that won 55 games without him.
RocknRollface
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Jordan had a fantastic team around him. Pippen Roddman > Wade Bosch. Ron Harper kukoch> anyone else on the Heat.
I'm not an expert on all the players that have played the game of basketball, but to me Magic Johnson has to be considered one of the best. He could have started in the NBA at all five positions. His team won NBA championship playoff games with him at center and point guard. Jordan was a really good player, but there have been a lot of really good players. I'm just saying its unlikely Jordan was the best of all time.
