Dev: I was best B1G guard, not Stauskas

[HawkeyeMHA]

I think dev is probably better than Jordan.

 

[OakRaiders]

Wilt was the best player to ever play the game. The game had to change to make it harder for him. He esentially beat basketball.

 

[JHHawk]

Wilt was the best player to ever play the game. The game had to change to make it harder for him. He esentially beat basketball.

But, Russell and the Celts beat Wilt....again and again and again and again. Wilt was the all time most game-changing physical presence in the NBA, but it is a team game, and the Celts with Russell bested him most of the time.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Shot clock? The shot clock has been in the NBA since 1954. Hell, the NCAA women have had a 30 second shot clock since at least the '70s when my wife played college basketball.

When I played in the '70s we were taught how to effectively use hand checking to guide a dribbler to where we wanted him to go. Then we'd slap a trap on him and look for a steal.

The three point line came into effect because of the ABA. Not certain exactly how awarding more points for farther shots reduces physicality because more of those shots are missed and most of the physical play occurs under the basket when jockeying for position to rebound the miss.

You must not understand what I meant. Yes I know the shot clock has been around along time. What I meant was that when the NBA decided to take hand checking out of the game and call it a foul it was a big change for the players. Derek Harper of the Knicks Gary Payton of the Sonics days had their hands all over the other pgs. The fouls where they would just clobber guys on the head to prevent layups were just common fouls. Todays players would have a pretty big adjustment to that era of how the game was played.

 

[HawkeyeMHA]

Russell much more skilled than wilt. Wilt physically superior. Factoring for all variables including skill, will to win, success (wins/ championships), output (pints, rebounds, assists, etc), Jordan the best hands down. Wilt slept with over ten thousand women though, so, you know, that's something.

 

[Hawknigh]

The "Jordan Rules" are nothing more than an update of the '60s basketball where NO ONE got to the basket for a layup without getting pounded. Jeez, so many think that basketball was invented just after Jordan came into the NBA. Why do you think that guys like Dan Issel had no front teeth? Love pats?

The single play I pointed to led to the rules about flagrant fouls and intentional fouls being created and enforced. Check it out and tell me that anything even close to this happened to Jordan: www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7r6vXeOfyQ

Jordan took harder hits than this in every game with the Pistons. Granted, this one by McHale was flagrant, but it was more about hooking him than pounding him. Laimbeer would "bring the hammer" on Jordan, not just the hook. The impact from the hit was often worse than the impact with the floor.

 

[Tierney]

Russell much more skilled than wilt. Wilt physically superior. Factoring for all variables including skill, will to win, success (wins/ championships), output (pints, rebounds, assists, etc), Jordan the best hands down. Wilt slept with over ten thousand women though, so, you know, that's something.

Jordan was a pretty good basketball player, and he should be considered one of the best. I bet Chamberlain slept with a bunch of really endearing women.

 

[NEIChawk]