I know I'm not the first or last on this topic but this guy seems absolutely clueless unless he has a perfect situation. There's at least 1 known commodity and playmaker sitting and not seeing the field that any other OC would figure out a way to get him out there and that's Mitchell #32. Came to Iowa as a receiver so create some packages for him in the slot or as a quasi TE. He'd be a nightmare matchup in some cases. But no, let's let him sit on the bench and not utilize his talents.
Davis Has to Go
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HawkGold
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What do you base this on given history? Is he sick?
tksirius
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Rob's feeling combined with 1st hand knowledge his wife hates Iowa City and he's only had one successful offense since he's been here.
He's also 65 so it seems like a good guess. It probably depends on his financial condition more than anything (if it's up to him).
HuckFinn
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It will come as no surprise that we can conclude that Davis's offensive scheme is a dumpster fire. It did not work the first year he was here and although last year the offense was ok, just ok, it is back to a disaster in 2016. We spent a lot of effort, in re: recruiting classes, using spots to add skilled receivers, at the expense of some offensive and defensive line recruits. As to all of those receivers, some are riding the bench, some have transferred or quit the team, and virtually none of them have progressed to become real threats. The best we have had was a 2 star long shot from rural South Dakota, and yes, he is a good one. Whether these were recruiting errors or lack of good coaching (see, developmental program claim), or due to the scheme we use, is hard to figure...probably a combination. But, it comes back to the coaching staff.
The result is a clear lack of depth and questionable talent in the offensive and defensive lines, and one of the worst passing attacks in Division 1 football. This with a second team all BT QB, a senior, and a guy that looks almost nothing like the guy he was a year ago. Again, coaching? Who knows. But much of the blame has to go to a below average offensive line giving up too many sacks, not producing a consistent run game, and the resultant neutralization of the play action theory.
I am certainly no expert. Just a fan who really follows the game, does a lot of reading to keep up with football, has played at the college level and coached at a large high school. The Iowa coaching staff far surpasses my level of knowledge. At the same time, I am not blind. Our routes in the passing game make little sense, have almost no diversity, do not make use of some very basic theories on patterns, and our run game seems to lack imagination. Take a look at our most recent outing against a team that is essentially built the same way Iowa is. The difference: Paul Chryst is a very imaginative offensive coordinator, but runs a fairly conservative pro style offense. I would love to have him at Iowa.
Sometimes, even if you have good knowledgeable people coaching your offense, it just makes sense to make some dramatic changes when things have not gone well over an extended period of time. That would be us. And, you do not have to remind me that the head coach is still the lead dog.
BTW, take a look at the on going success of the Wisconsin defense, an aggressive, attacking, theme. Can we continue to run the "bend not break" D in the day and age when teams are scoring so many more points with wide open offenses? And, they score fast removing some of the effectiveness of the B not B.
Sorry to go on so long. I have almost never been critical of our coaches. Guess I just got fed up on Saturday.
The result is a clear lack of depth and questionable talent in the offensive and defensive lines, and one of the worst passing attacks in Division 1 football. This with a second team all BT QB, a senior, and a guy that looks almost nothing like the guy he was a year ago. Again, coaching? Who knows. But much of the blame has to go to a below average offensive line giving up too many sacks, not producing a consistent run game, and the resultant neutralization of the play action theory.
I am certainly no expert. Just a fan who really follows the game, does a lot of reading to keep up with football, has played at the college level and coached at a large high school. The Iowa coaching staff far surpasses my level of knowledge. At the same time, I am not blind. Our routes in the passing game make little sense, have almost no diversity, do not make use of some very basic theories on patterns, and our run game seems to lack imagination. Take a look at our most recent outing against a team that is essentially built the same way Iowa is. The difference: Paul Chryst is a very imaginative offensive coordinator, but runs a fairly conservative pro style offense. I would love to have him at Iowa.
Sometimes, even if you have good knowledgeable people coaching your offense, it just makes sense to make some dramatic changes when things have not gone well over an extended period of time. That would be us. And, you do not have to remind me that the head coach is still the lead dog.
BTW, take a look at the on going success of the Wisconsin defense, an aggressive, attacking, theme. Can we continue to run the "bend not break" D in the day and age when teams are scoring so many more points with wide open offenses? And, they score fast removing some of the effectiveness of the B not B.
Sorry to go on so long. I have almost never been critical of our coaches. Guess I just got fed up on Saturday.
KF doesn't fire coaches, but I think a mutual separation or "retirement" would be in line. 6-6 with a lot of the offense back from a 12-0 team requires some immediate changes. You can't just let it ride. Now there is a pattern of regression with quarterbacks as well. The complexity of this offense doesn't work. Unless all of the starts line up perfectly, it will never be successful.
He certainly has. See former RB coach (Lester Erb) and WR coach (Soup Campbell), and I am sure others can't recall right now. They were on 1 year contracts and did not get renewed.
Were Chuck Long or BB shown the door?
Chuck left for somewhere else (maybe to Oklahoma?). Beliema left for K State I believe. Pretty sure that was their choosing.
Joshbrown
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Kaczinsky(sp?) Fired or quit or encouraged to leave?? To Nebraska, where he lost his job when they cleaned house. Bwahahahahahahah. Kirk finally let him go after he cost us some defensive linemen.
DBAHawkFan
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I don't believe they were ever "fired", but more of contract was done and we decided not to renew, or KF encouraged the coaches to find new work in order to save face.
KF first coaching tree was brilliant. In the mold of Hayden, and many of those assistants left and became great coaches in their own right.
I am struggling to think of more than two or three coaches that KF has hired since our "glory" days ending in 2004, that have really been great.
Reese Morgan -- Dependable coach. Good recruiter of Iowa. His 2008 OL was very good. Our DL tend to be salty against the run, but we've really struggled to find that pass rush off the edge. Ott may have been that guy last year but injury took him away.
Jim Reid -- He took two of the worst LB corps we've had and turned them around. 2012 - 2013, 2014 - 2015
He's now the DC at Boston College
Can anyone else think of a coach that KF has hired that we've been impressed with? Chris White seems to have gotten our ST play improved, but a lot of that was having our playmakers actually return kicks versus fair catch or letting the ball bounce
KF first coaching tree was brilliant. In the mold of Hayden, and many of those assistants left and became great coaches in their own right.
I am struggling to think of more than two or three coaches that KF has hired since our "glory" days ending in 2004, that have really been great.
Reese Morgan -- Dependable coach. Good recruiter of Iowa. His 2008 OL was very good. Our DL tend to be salty against the run, but we've really struggled to find that pass rush off the edge. Ott may have been that guy last year but injury took him away.
Jim Reid -- He took two of the worst LB corps we've had and turned them around. 2012 - 2013, 2014 - 2015
He's now the DC at Boston College
Can anyone else think of a coach that KF has hired that we've been impressed with? Chris White seems to have gotten our ST play improved, but a lot of that was having our playmakers actually return kicks versus fair catch or letting the ball bounce
Yes GD has to go. Think the players, their families, the fans are all weary of watching year after year of players work their asses off only to do next to nothing on the field. I guarantee you this hurts team chemistry and recruiting. QB after QB into the dumpster. Could never recommend a young guy to go to Iowa as a receiver or a QB. What a crap end to a great high school career. I'm fed up, can you tell??
deanvogs
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HuckFinn, spot on.
blubberhawk
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Only 65? I am surprised he has not received his 10 year extension. After all, we did score 42 points against ISU.
koralakers
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We said pretty much the EXACT SAME THINGS about KOK. The one constant is KF. Same old boring, predictable offense and defense schemes. Seriously, we have to be the most boring team to watch in college football.
jldhawk
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Yep I think it is a two fold problem. We need to get rid of Davis, he is horrible no matter what. But Kirk needs to hire an innovator and then step away. Tell them wants a zone blocking scheme and .... step.....away......
MelroseHawkins
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Kazinski 9?sp)?
Joshbrown
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I don't trust those ethnic names. They always have a number or hieroglyphic in them. "Archie Bunker" now there's a quality name for an assistant coach.
