Cubs name Quade manager

Not sure how i feel about the Quade move, they've tried the players' manager, tried the disiciplinarian route still can't get over the hump....The Cubs have 3 or 4 contracts to try and get out from under that I have more concern with. How are they going to rebuild?
 
HawkeyeMike23 said:
He plays small ball way too much, he loves the sacrifice bunt, he likes to hit and run. He basically gives away outs at an alarming rate, he's against a lot of the advanced statistics. He's way too old school in a lot of his thinking, he also has never even been on a major league coaching staff at any point. It's one thing to deal with minor league players who are in their teens or early 20's, it's another thing to deal with grown men who are multi-millionaires. He can have a bit of an ego and I think he would rub a lot of the players the wrong way over the course of the season.

Also, the Cubs are not going to be title contenders for the next year or two as they are in the process of getting much younger. Having Sandberg guide the team through a couple of rough years could lead to a lot of frustration with fans who feel that it's his fault the Cubs aren't winning and could lead to the Cubs having to fire a legendary player which would be a messy situation all the way around.
Click to expand...

Interesting answers. I see your points. Thanks for the feedback.
 
HawkeyeMike23 said:
I sure hope Sandberg finds another job before them, he would be about my last choice to manage the Cubs.
Click to expand...

I disagree with Sandberg being the last choice, but I do agree that he'll find himself a managerial job before then.

Regardless of what happens going forward, Quade earned this job. Now he has to figure out what to do with it.
 
Hawkfromnorwalk said:
I don't like it at all. Should have waited to gauge Girargi's interest first. Also what becomes of Ryno? He's already been rumored to be interviewing for other positions. I think this was the worse move the Rickett's family could have made. Looks like it'll be more of the same from the new ownership. They needed to do something to re-energize the fans, this does nothing for me.
Click to expand...

Why should the Cubs wait on Girardi? Because he played for them, is from Chicago, and went to Northwestern? How have the last two "big name" managers fared in the pressure cooker that is the Cubs?

I also don't see how hiring Sandberg would have re-energized the fanbase. The roster still has a ton of holes, and the team is probably going to be bad next year. If the Ricketts had hired Sandberg or Girardi, they would have been hiring someone that they would not be able to fire.

Obviously, with this only be a two year deal, Quade will be out if he doesn't succeed, as will Hendry.
 
ShadasRevenge said:
Why should the Cubs wait on Girardi? Because he played for them, is from Chicago, and went to Northwestern? How have the last two "big name" managers fared in the pressure cooker that is the Cubs?

I also don't see how hiring Sandberg would have re-energized the fanbase. The roster still has a ton of holes, and the team is probably going to be bad next year. If the Ricketts had hired Sandberg or Girardi, they would have been hiring someone that they would not be able to fire.

Obviously, with this only be a two year deal, Quade will be out if he doesn't succeed, as will Hendry.
Click to expand...

This is the key right here. he's a cheap way to go while the team struggles. In 2 years there will be some more money to deal with and they can get a coach and some more FAs to make the team better. This is win win for the Cubs. IF he does a good job even better.
 
Girardi was never the right choice. The Cubs have massively overpaid for their managers the last several years and gotten nothing from it other than frustration. I think the average manager salary is like $800,000 or something like that. The Cubs were forking over around $5,000,000 I think for Piniella/Baker. Save that money and put it into developing players or scouting.

I don't think Ricketts was necessarily in favor of Q. I think he wanted Ryno but Ricketts did what he said he was going to do and left the baseball decisions to his GM. I think he's giving Hendry a chance to dig out of the Tribune's mess and if he can't do it in another year or two he'll be gone.
 
hawkfarmer said:
Says he wants to manage/or coach at the next level. Could be a bench coach, but I doubt it's with the Cubs. I think he feels as the job was his and it was taken from him. Not sure we'll ever see him in Chicago Cubs uni again. Hope I'm wrong.
Click to expand...

I love how Sandberg thinks he deserved this job because he put in four whole years in the minors. If he wants to manage the Cubs he needs to suck it up and take the bench coach job, if not oh well. Not sad to see him go.
 
hawkeyehat said:
I think he's giving Hendry a chance to dig out of the Tribune's mess and if he can't do it in another year or two he'll be gone.
Click to expand...

Hendry should be long gone because he's created much of the mess the Cubs are in now. He's the one that signed so many guys to such horrible contracts, he's the one responsible for the lack of player development, etc.
 
HawkeyeMike23 said:
I love how Sandberg thinks he deserved this job because he put in four whole years in the minors. If he wants to manage the Cubs he needs to suck it up and take the bench coach job, if not oh well. Not sad to see him go.
Click to expand...

Mike that's just it, he wasn't offered the bench coach job. He wasn't even offered the AAA job. He thinks he deserves the job because he thinks he can get it done and has proven it by his record managing up through the organization. There was nothing in his statement that could be deemed arrogant or even sour. He was "dissapointed" as he should be and said he was exploring his options as he should be.
 
DuffMan said:
Mike that's just it, he wasn't offered the bench coach job. He wasn't even offered the AAA job. He thinks he deserves the job because he thinks he can get it done and has proven it by his record managing up through the organization. There was nothing in his statement that could be deemed arrogant or even sour. He was "dissapointed" as he should be and said he was exploring his options as he should be.
Click to expand...

They didn't have to offer him the AAA job because he was still the manager there. The Cubs have never said they were going to fire him, he's making the decision to leave the organization. And Quade has twice the minor league experience and accomplishments of Sandberg, plus all the time he has served on MLB coaching staffs. Him acting like he has no choice now but to leave is arrogant.
 
HawkeyeMike23 said:
They didn't have to offer him the AAA job because he was still the manager there. The Cubs have never said they were going to fire him, he's making the decision to leave the organization. And Quade has twice the minor league experience and accomplishments of Sandberg, plus all the time he has served on MLB coaching staffs. Him acting like he has no choice now but to leave is arrogant.
Click to expand...

Dude, he's not under contract for next year, not at AAA, not anywhere with the organization. When they called to inform him they went with Q they didn't offer him any other position either. He's exploring other options because as of right now he doesn't have a job.

Sandberg disappointed, will seek other jobs - Chicago Breaking Sports

I'm not saying Q is not the right man for the job, I'm saying your take on Sandberg and his reaction is founded in ignorance and smells an awful lot like a personal dislike for him rather than a dislike for how he's handeling the situation.
 
DuffMan said:
Dude, he's not under contract for next year, not at AAA, not anywhere with the organization. When they called to inform him they went with Q they didn't offer him any other position either. He's exploring other options because as of right now he doesn't have a job.

Sandberg disappointed, will seek other jobs - Chicago Breaking Sports

I'm not saying Q is not the right man for the job, I'm saying your take on Sandberg and his reaction is founded in ignorance and smells an awful lot like a personal dislike for him rather than a dislike for how he's handeling the situation.
Click to expand...

I don't know about you, but I didn't expect the Cubs to fill out every job opening on the same day. They just hired Quade yesterday, it is unreasonable to think that there would be more meetings within the organziation before they fill out the other jobs? Sandberg made it clear that he was now going to look for a job in another organization. And I don't really feel one way or the other about Sandberg personally. I just think his managerial style is very flawed, and there are so many ignorant fans out there that want him to get the manager job based on his playing days.
 
HawkeyeMike23 said:
I don't know about you, but I didn't expect the Cubs to fill out every job opening on the same day. They just hired Quade yesterday, it is unreasonable to think that there would be more meetings within the organziation before they fill out the other jobs? Sandberg made it clear that he was now going to look for a job in another organization. And I don't really feel one way or the other about Sandberg personally. I just think his managerial style is very flawed, and there are so many ignorant fans out there that want him to get the manager job based on his playing days.
Click to expand...

But that's not what you said guy :rolleyes:. You implied he already had the AAA job and was arrogant for threatening to leave the organization. The reality is if the Cubs had really wanted to keep him with the organization they would have made it clear in that conversation that he was still a big part of thier plans. The fact they didn't say that speaks volumes.

It's no secret that he wants to manage a Major League team. And regardless of your personal feelings he's got a pretty damn good resume. HOF career. Well respected by his former coaches, managers, and teamates. Terrific managerial record as he worked his way through the minor league levels.

I'm not saying he's the right guy for the Cubs job. I'm saying you look foolish for calling him arrogant for looking outside of the organization while persuing his goal of managing a Major League ball club.
 
DuffMan said:
But that's not what you said guy :rolleyes:. You implied he already had the AAA job and was arrogant for threatening to leave the organization. The reality is if the Cubs had really wanted to keep him with the organization they would have made it clear in that conversation that he was still a big part of thier plans. The fact they didn't say that speaks volumes.

It's no secret that he wants to manage a Major League team. And regardless of your personal feelings he's got a pretty damn good resume. HOF career. Well respected by his former coaches, managers, and teamates. Terrific managerial record as he worked his way through the minor league levels.

I'm not saying he's the right guy for the Cubs job. I'm saying you look foolish for calling him arrogant for looking outside of the organization while persuing his goal of managing a Major League ball club.
Click to expand...


His playing career has nothing to do with his managerial skills. There's lots of guys that want to be major league managers out there, God forbid you have to put in more than four years at the minor league level. I'll be shocked if any team hires him as a manager, there's not a lot of teams looking for old school, small ball managers out there. We'll see where he ends up next year.
 
HawkeyeMike23 said:
His playing career has nothing to do with his managerial skills. There's lots of guys that want to be major league managers out there, God forbid you have to put in more than four years at the minor league level. I'll be shocked if any team hires him as a manager, there's not a lot of teams looking for old school, small ball managers out there. We'll see where he ends up next year.
Click to expand...

I disagree that his playing career has nothing to do with his managerial skills. Many of the same skills required to be a HOF player are also required to be a successfull manager. Obviously he's not going to be a HOF manager just because he's a HOF player, but to say one has nothing to do with the other is just plain stupid.

It's also pretty foolish to think teams aren't looking for small ball managers. HR's are down 1/2 a HR per game from where we were a few years ago and at their lowest levels since 1993. Runs, average, and ERA's were at their lowest levels since 1992. The Devil Rays are going to end up in the world series and they excell at small ball playing the the AL no less.

Small ball has always ruled the post season and is going to be much more important in the regular season as we move further from the steroid era.
 
For sentimental reasons (I can't pretend to know, objectively, how he'll do as a big league manager), I hope you're right. However, if that's their desire, they might be making a tragic mistake to assume he won't bolt to another club.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Share this page

Top