I don't remember anyone actually saying that Indiana's schedule was tough, merely that they are better than what Herby thinks.
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I don't remember anyone actually saying that Indiana's schedule was tough, merely that they are better than what Herby thinks.
woodyk1
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Didn't Indiana beat Kentucky last year? I believe he said Crean can't coach. I think he has proven otherwise (IMO of course). And, he can recruit.
Didn't Indiana beat Kentucky last year? I believe he said Crean can't coach. I think he has proven otherwise (IMO of course). And, he can recruit.
Crean is a good head coach, no doubt about it. There have been valid criticisms of his in-game coaching, but it is Herby and you're right saying he can't coach is insane. This is just one of Herby's crazy rants that happen to catch a little bit of truth.
woodyk1
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Agreed.
RocknRollface
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This isn't even close to the best Herby has to offer.
Hawkeye11en1
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Oh man what a great read.
What I love about herby is that ppl will pose reasonable explanations or even reasonable questions back to herby, and he never responds. Ever. Its like clockwork. He must be the greatest troll in the history of the interwebs. I'm seriously impressed.
We lose to plenty of teams, including Campbell and Nebraska and go to NIT. We then start 3 freshman the next year. Indiana finishes 5th in the B10, makes the sweet 16. Their starting 5 is all returning.
Seems the same to me.
What I love about herby is that ppl will pose reasonable explanations or even reasonable questions back to herby, and he never responds. Ever. Its like clockwork. He must be the greatest troll in the history of the interwebs. I'm seriously impressed.
We lose to plenty of teams, including Campbell and Nebraska and go to NIT. We then start 3 freshman the next year. Indiana finishes 5th in the B10, makes the sweet 16. Their starting 5 is all returning.
Seems the same to me.
Section136
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Not to mention they bring in the #1 class in teh nation.
Hawkeye11en1
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It's crazy. He has ppl liking Indiana and hating Olesani. Magical work.
This is the craziest...most people would be loving on the depth that olaseni brings and his development but because of herby we end up just trying to get him to understand who gabe is for the team. He is a solid role player that could still develop nicely but he isn't a guy we can count on consistently yet. Herby takes comments like that and twists them into hating on gabe.
Hawkeye11en1
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I must say:
I couldn't sleep this morning so I spent about the last 2 hours on HN and you have been owning this thread & board. Props to you.
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
Iowa loses just May next year, brings in Uthoff, Jok, and Meyer.
Do you think they will be predicted to finish higher than this year?
Man, basketball is so hard to understand, ain't it?
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
Truly amazing. I'm being 100% serious.
Of course he does. Because by next yr herby will change his theories and if we make the sweet sixteen and return all our starters plus that group of recruits you would feel the wrath of herby if you don't rank them as favorites in the b1g and like a top 10 ranking.
The biggest problem is that when you pose the reasonable arguments he will just get mad, give the same dribble as earlier, or completely ignore you.
I actually like some good old fashioned disagreements as long as the other side can bring something to the table. I like reading herby because we disagree on a lot of stuff so it is nice to argue about our different takes. But he usually does one of the above and derails the whole thing.
I get sick of hearing about height and weight and 40 times and whether stars matter or not. It is about skills not recruiting stars given by a site in any sport.
Heck stormin' gave me a rundown about tucker in a thread. All I had seen of the guy was at iowa. So all I thought of him was as a set shooter. But stormin' gave some good info that he was more than that. Works for me.
Iowa "ADDED" 4 freshman to a team, of which 3 are starting, that returns 5 of their top 6 scorers and 6 of their top 8 scorers,
these 6 players played a big role in beating Indiana at home
all that has happened for Iowa is now rather than starting the bench as gotten deeper and better, which gives Fran a very solid rotation of 10-11 players vs a bench of Brom/Arch.
most of you act like Iowa lost their entire starting lineup and Fran is starting from scratch like Lick was constantly doing.
as for Indiana making the sweet 16, SO WHAT, 15 other teams made the sweet 16, I son't see a 16 way tie for 1st place,
and for the record by ESPN Indiana's class was rated 11th best, with MSU getting the 8th best class, making MSU with best incoming class in ther BT, Michigan and 14th best class, Purdues class was rated 19th and Iowa was rated 25th.
sorry but Indiana did not get the #1 recruiting class, that honor went to UCLA.
these 6 players played a big role in beating Indiana at home
all that has happened for Iowa is now rather than starting the bench as gotten deeper and better, which gives Fran a very solid rotation of 10-11 players vs a bench of Brom/Arch.
most of you act like Iowa lost their entire starting lineup and Fran is starting from scratch like Lick was constantly doing.
as for Indiana making the sweet 16, SO WHAT, 15 other teams made the sweet 16, I son't see a 16 way tie for 1st place,
and for the record by ESPN Indiana's class was rated 11th best, with MSU getting the 8th best class, making MSU with best incoming class in ther BT, Michigan and 14th best class, Purdues class was rated 19th and Iowa was rated 25th.
sorry but Indiana did not get the #1 recruiting class, that honor went to UCLA.
Hawkeye11en1
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So who should have been ranked #1? It's called preseason rankings for a reason. They didn't crown anyone. And neither did any of us.
Are you saying that Iowa should be ranked just as high as Indiana? Because we beat them last year? Am I getting that correct?
and for the record. no I am not expecting a top 10 ranking if Iowa makes the sweet 16. this is the problem Dr. T om dealt with all 13 years and that was overblown expectations of the fans considering the level of talent the other teams in the BT have, Teams like MSU, OSU and Michigan are not suddenly fall off the map thatr will allow other teams to just move to the top.
we have to rely on Frans ability to "COACH" and continue to get better recruits to continue to improve their standings
sorry if some of you can't/wont accept this, but in the BT its all about "COACHING" THAT CAN AND DOES , that makes the difference between winning and losing, not the star rankings of a kid
Kentucky with all the 5* kids is not even in the AP Top25 and is just 23rd in the coaches poll
we have to rely on Frans ability to "COACH" and continue to get better recruits to continue to improve their standings
sorry if some of you can't/wont accept this, but in the BT its all about "COACHING" THAT CAN AND DOES , that makes the difference between winning and losing, not the star rankings of a kid
Kentucky with all the 5* kids is not even in the AP Top25 and is just 23rd in the coaches poll
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