Can Penn St. be kicked out of the B1G?
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Yep and it won't do anything to help the victims, it will just satisfy the 'outraged' crowd who wants their pound of flesh right now but will have forgotten about this in less than a month.
DuffMan
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yes, because there are so many benefits to having a team under all kinds of ncaa sanctions in your conference. where would they go at this point? the big east?
I doubt the NCAA envisioned needing a specific rule that a coach,A.D, School V.P,and President enabling a pedophile for over a decade was wrong. They're not going to get off on a technicality, Penn State shouldn't want to anyway. The **** storm would be incredible.
LOL.
Big East, Big 12 or ACC. Everyone of those conferences would take them in a second.
Why is it so difficult to understand that the ncaa isn't going to investigate the rape.
But they are going to investigate the system that was non compliant that allowed it to a)happen & b)continue
Basic stuff folks.
Law enforcement will deal with laws
Ncaa will deal with the system that was out of compliance.
But they are going to investigate the system that was non compliant that allowed it to a)happen & b)continue
Basic stuff folks.
Law enforcement will deal with laws
Ncaa will deal with the system that was out of compliance.
They weren't out of compliance with NCAA rules.
nationalchamps
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DuffMan
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fine, let them go. now explain the advantage the conference would get from psu.
hawkdrummer1
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No need to shout man, I read it the first time. But where in the article does it say that their compliance department was "non-functioning"?
compliance.pac-12.org/thetools/instctl.pdf
LOL
Again, the ncaa isn't/won't investigate the actual rape, law enforcement will.
The NCAA will investigate the systemic failure...ie the compliance system.
LOL
You're in sky is purple territory dude.
You obviously haven't read that or you did and your reading comprehension is really poor.
The Freeh report said it.
Jon quoted it in an article he wrote on this very site.
A very large state school with the 3rd most valuable football program in the nation with a huge alumni base and good recruiting base. Yeah, no advantages there.
Sparky
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Listen folks. Penn St. did break NCAA guidelines and they deserve what they get. I have taken the following directly from the NCAA Rulebook.
2.1 The Principle of Institutional Control and Responsibility
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2.1.1 Responsibility for Control
[*] It is the responsibility of each member institution to control its intercollegiate athletics program in compliance with the rules and regulations of the Association. The institution's resident or chancellor is responsible for the administration of all aspects of the athletics program, including approval of the budget and audit of all expenditures.
2.1.2 Scope of Responsibility
[*] The institution's responsibilityfor the conduct of its intercollegiate athletics program includes responsibility for the actions of its staff members and for the actions of any other individual or organization engaged in activities promoting the athletics interests of the institution.
2.2.5 Fairness, Openness and Honesty
[*] It is the responsibility of each member institution to ensure that coaches and administrators exhibit fairness, openness and honesty in their relationships with student-athletes.
That's what I gathered from the first 2 pages of actual guidelines. Try to tell me the NCAA doesn't have any jurisdiction.
2.1 The Principle of Institutional Control and Responsibility
[*]
2.1.1 Responsibility for Control
[*] It is the responsibility of each member institution to control its intercollegiate athletics program in compliance with the rules and regulations of the Association. The institution's resident or chancellor is responsible for the administration of all aspects of the athletics program, including approval of the budget and audit of all expenditures.
2.1.2 Scope of Responsibility
[*] The institution's responsibilityfor the conduct of its intercollegiate athletics program includes responsibility for the actions of its staff members and for the actions of any other individual or organization engaged in activities promoting the athletics interests of the institution.
2.2.5 Fairness, Openness and Honesty
[*] It is the responsibility of each member institution to ensure that coaches and administrators exhibit fairness, openness and honesty in their relationships with student-athletes.
That's what I gathered from the first 2 pages of actual guidelines. Try to tell me the NCAA doesn't have any jurisdiction.
I think the Freeh report maybe mentioned NCAA compliance maybe 1 or two times in mentioning that he believed they were understaffed. The majority of compliance related talk in the report was about Clery Act compliance and having a centralized office that dealt with compliance with univeristy policies, law and regulations because different departments in the university would often have their own compliance person so it was decentralized with no communication between different compliance staff across the university.
The Freeh report did not discuss violations of NCAA rules or lack of enforcement of NCAA rules.
They did say that in terms of the Clery Act there was basically no compliance for almost twenty years, i.e. non-functioning compliance department in terms of the Clery Act.
