California Gives NCAA The Middle Finger

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hawkeyes87 said:
Completely because they want to help the poor kids, right?

Nothing to do with competitive advantages.
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Yeah, the question I have is even if a kid is on a full scholarship, why can't they apply for a FAFSA loan to cover living expenses, like most other kids? are they not allowed?
 
Casey388 said:
So when can I pick up my NCAA Football 2020? That is the important part of this discussion.
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SteveGarvey1 said:
They already have such an advantage I'm not sure this is going to change things much.
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I think it will be more of a reallocation of talent. Programs with richer alums, like Oregon, will move to the very pinnacle of the pecking order. What will be interesting is how transfers will figure into this. Say I'm Oregon and I have a bunch of Nike deals that can be doled out. I see that Iowa has some stud left tackle true freshman playing. Am I going to be able to walk in, get him to transfer and come to Oregon? Yeah, I lose the sophomore year, but I then might have an all-American left tackle for his junior year.
 
Northside Hawk said:
Legally compensating NCAA athletes has been gaining momentum for at least thirty years.

It's inevitable that some form of unified NCAA approved payment plan for the major sports will be enacted. And it's long overdue. And perhaps it will eliminate some of the temptation for athletes to get involved with certain shady characters.

One of the hangups all these years has been whether or not athletes in the non revenue producing sports deserve the same compensation. It depends. When 80,000 people attend a field hockey game or a swim meet or a rowing match perhaps then there will be discussion about it.

If this passes the NCAA will have no choice but to step in and make it national. Talk about an unfair recruiting advantage. It's bad enough as it is that athletes at certain schools are getting cash, jewelry. hotrods, "academic assistance", etc. Think about what will happen in the first state that passes something like this.
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I think the players, coaches, ADs, equipment managers, cheerleaders, etc. should all be paid exactly the same...and the government should tax the hell out of all of them....and this tax money should be used to make more laws to tax more people to the max, until, well, I don't know...until every team has a new stadium, and new OC, and every citizen (or not) has a free ipad...so they can be on youtube and post their selfies, which will also be taxed...
 
Illinois governor on the news today pushing the state legislature to pass a bill similar to Californias.

This does not affect the NCAA or Universities. Only the players themselves.
 
Didnt realize the NCAA jumped in and voted to allow players to profit. Of course they want to get the hands in the pie some how.
 
Motigerhawk said:
Didnt realize the NCAA jumped in and voted to allow players to profit. Of course they want to get the hands in the pie some how.
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THey're trying to stop the bleeding after California passed their bill. The NCAA wants to stop it from becoming the Wild Wild West, but it's too late. They got greedy and said no way is anyone allowed to make money, California called their bluff, and now the NCAA is going to have to pay the piper.

And honestly, F 'em. They should have been more reasonable to begin with and it probably wouldn't have gotten to this point.
 
okeefe4prez said:
I think it will be more of a reallocation of talent. Programs with richer alums, like Oregon, will move to the very pinnacle of the pecking order. What will be interesting is how transfers will figure into this. Say I'm Oregon and I have a bunch of Nike deals that can be doled out. I see that Iowa has some stud left tackle true freshman playing. Am I going to be able to walk in, get him to transfer and come to Oregon? Yeah, I lose the sophomore year, but I then might have an all-American left tackle for his junior year.
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Hawks better come up with some kickass new jerseys, recruits are going to want to play somewhere where their autographs are gonna sell like hot cakes.
 
MoseSchrute said:
....and the Bluebloods receive yet another advantage.
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There might be more bloods now, not Iowa.
Fryowa said:
THey're trying to stop the bleeding after California passed their bill. The NCAA wants to stop it from becoming the Wild Wild West, but it's too late. They got greedy and said no way is anyone allowed to make money, California called their bluff, and now the NCAA is going to have to pay the piper.

And honestly, F 'em. They should have been more reasonable to begin with and it probably wouldn't have gotten to this point.
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California has the most to gain, the most wealthy and populous state, losing too many recruits out of state. This will stop that. Iowa is not going to be a winner here. NW, Minnesota, Illinois, and Wisconsin will all benefit more than Iowa. Although our fan base is strong I’m not sure it will turn into ad revenue. We’ll see. I think those more populous areas will have more to gain, even if it’s a smaller % of a much bigger pie and build momentum.
 
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Fryowa said:
THey're trying to stop the bleeding after California passed their bill. The NCAA wants to stop it from becoming the Wild Wild West, but it's too late. They got greedy and said no way is anyone allowed to make money, California called their bluff, and now the NCAA is going to have to pay the piper.

And honestly, F 'em. They should have been more reasonable to begin with and it probably wouldn't have gotten to this point.
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i would compare California to Andy Messersmith in 1975.

Major league baseball owners had gotten rich off the players for many decades by not letting the players bid their services relative to the market (free agency). Not rich by today's standards, but rich enough, especially when a typical player was making 50-100k. Andy Messersmith and several other players started the 1975 season without contracts, holding out for more money, and to challenge the reserve clause, but most of them backed down and signed as the year went on.

Not Messersmith. He was going to stay the course. Then when the Dodgers owner saw that the long sacred reserve clause was headed for a third party arbitrator, and that the owners could lose, they tried to bribe Andy by sweetening their initial offer. Messersmith basically said to go piss up a rope. He had come this far, he might as well go all the way with this.

Talk about calling someone's bluff! In late 1975 the arbitrator ruled in favor of the players, and free agency was born. Marvin Miller, who should be mentioned in the prayers of every modern day baseball player, then fleeced the owners of everything but their Buster Browns. He came up with the absolutely brilliant idea of requiring a player to have six years of major league service before they could file for free agency. This kept the supply down, but drove the demand way up. Now players with proper service time could sell their services to the highest bidder, and owners who were smart, like George Steinbrenner, were soon lining their office walls with pennants and championships. The rest is history, still evolving and reverberating to this day, thanks in large part to an insignificant and unassuming, but stubborn as a mule, pitcher near the end of his career.

Now the landscape is about to change for NCAA sports. And the schools that figure out how to use this to their advantage are going to be the George Steinbrenners of NCAA sports.
 
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