HawkIMalaise
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Hey genius. That was Mike Stoops
Brett Bielema
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docholihawk
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I'm glad you're on your high horse. Mike Stoops was the head man at Arizona. Now tell me you don't feel like an a$$.
QuadCityHawkeye
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A MAC could would worry me since I think they'd used Iowa as a stepping stone for something bigger. I'd rather have a proven coach who's won at a major school come in. Iowa had great facilities and I think could bring in a proven coach.
I get what you are saying money-wise. It's going to take some time to get that buyout down if they want to go that route which they probably won't.
Derp much?
hawkdrummer1
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Jon, I appreciate your honest statements...perhaps never more honest than now. Understanding the stake you have in Hawkeye athletics...it's admirable.
I concur with most everything you say. The big...BIG factor that is very easy to marginalize, is the Sally Mason factor.
It's no surprise that the East Campus types have harbored serious resentment over the popularity and influence resulting from the success of athletics..for 20+ years. They just hate it. It's the personification of everything the arrogant, elitist, academic PC community despise. (and it's also a shining of example of their own ignorance...the exposure that athletic success brings to the University lifts all the departments on campus. But who could expect an academic-ultra-liberal to grasp that)
Excellence. Competition. "Winning" instead of equality. Something inherently "masculine" in its nature. Fill in the blanks with your own description..is the antithesis of their mission. And they'd be smugly glib to see the football program crash... they have their tenure, their golden parachute (you know...the same kind they bash in their classes when it comes in the private sector)...so there's no way they'd accept a coach with intestinal fortitude and a drive to win...like Stoops, Bielema (though I don't care for him) etc.
It started 10 years ago with the campus crack down (can you really explain the ICPD?) and the neutering of Melrose Ave. They're getting what they want. And it's not going to end well for those of us that have loved the last 30 years in Kinnick stadium. Barta is the perfect pansy...an AD with no power and low-T.
I concur with most everything you say. The big...BIG factor that is very easy to marginalize, is the Sally Mason factor.
It's no surprise that the East Campus types have harbored serious resentment over the popularity and influence resulting from the success of athletics..for 20+ years. They just hate it. It's the personification of everything the arrogant, elitist, academic PC community despise. (and it's also a shining of example of their own ignorance...the exposure that athletic success brings to the University lifts all the departments on campus. But who could expect an academic-ultra-liberal to grasp that)
Excellence. Competition. "Winning" instead of equality. Something inherently "masculine" in its nature. Fill in the blanks with your own description..is the antithesis of their mission. And they'd be smugly glib to see the football program crash... they have their tenure, their golden parachute (you know...the same kind they bash in their classes when it comes in the private sector)...so there's no way they'd accept a coach with intestinal fortitude and a drive to win...like Stoops, Bielema (though I don't care for him) etc.
It started 10 years ago with the campus crack down (can you really explain the ICPD?) and the neutering of Melrose Ave. They're getting what they want. And it's not going to end well for those of us that have loved the last 30 years in Kinnick stadium. Barta is the perfect pansy...an AD with no power and low-T.
Reread the guys post . THe first sentence he refers to the Kentucky job being Mike Stoops first head job ; not so ; he held the head job at AZ. till he was canned !
tweeterhawk
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Hey, pal, the Iwa president has pretty impressive seats at Kinnick. It's an honor to be in Sally Mason's box.
STILLBUSTER
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There it is, again. Suppose the NW corner could go silent during the waving of the "I" - "W" "A" flags? Screw the card stunts and striped sections ... that would be a feat!
SpiderRico
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What do the youngsters say nowadays? "Epic Fail"?
Thats Mike Stoops you're talking about...he said Mark Stoops...Mike's (and Bob's) brother. Might want to get your own facts straight before you make yourself out to be a fool again in a public forum.
eveningnewsteam
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There is no reason to not have the same success here as he did at Wisconsin.
hawkdrummer1
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Perhaps the regular invocation of the word "conservative" on this board to critically describe KFz's philosophy somehow escaped you. Not surprising. Selective outrage is as amusing...as it is predictable.
If Jon sees fit to ban me, so be it.I'm willing to accept the outcome of my actions (yeah, imagine that) I'm also one of those who's finally decided to use my beautiful fall Saturdays for other things. 600 mile round trips, $$$ spent and $$ donated to my alma mater haven't been the investment I'd hoped...or more accurately, the one I'm accustomed to. I love and support the kids who work their tails off for the program...I know a few of them personally. And I'll always have a deep affection for my alma mater. The "management"...on the other hand... is pretty weak.
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TheIowaHawkGuy
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There is one man only that Barta has his sights set on and that's Mark Farley. Here's why: Barta is an idiot, he's "earned it", knows Iowa, conservative, safe hire, and most importantly...cheap! This would be an awful hire but somehow it would make total sense given Barta's idiocy.
MNHawkeyeFreak
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Brett Bielema's an ***. I'd be embarrassed if he was the coach.
I think they should just put out the offer for a new coach to these various message boards. I think there's a large pool of guys that know exactly what plays should have been run come Monday, and I bet they would do it for half as much as kurt!
I think they should just put out the offer for a new coach to these various message boards. I think there's a large pool of guys that know exactly what plays should have been run come Monday, and I bet they would do it for half as much as kurt!
MoseSchrute
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More population, bigger homegrown talent pool to recruit from. Why do you think Wisconsin's O-line is usually bigger and better than Iowa's? We coulda had Gordon, but guess what, he ended up wanting to stay closer to home.
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Biels wanted more money for his coordinators, but Wisconsin wouldn't do it. I've said it from the beginning that him going to Arkansas was a way to position himself for the Iowa job. He's proven he can do it all in this conference, and I think it would be a big mistake not hiring him if Iowa has the chance.
yeah, that's not what I was referring to. Look more towards your comments bashing the east campus liberals.
Once you are done pouting and throwing a hissy about the state of the football program, we can get back to discussing football.
BILLBUCKNER
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They never liked him because he is an Iowa guy and never aplologized for being one.Ironically so was Barry at one time. Also he never won a Rose Bowl..Think about that for a moment. How many Rose Bowls did he get to play in. He would stick it to Wiscy. But first things first. Barta has to go. I don't trust him at all to make the most important hire in the sports dept. He screwed it up with Lick and and the jury is still out on Fran.
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Jon, at least Gary Barta gave a phone call to Bruce Pearl after canning Lickliter, even though we knew the answer was probably going to be "no", but at least he made the call.
