Brady Reiff cited for public intox....big deal, or no big deal?

[Northside Hawk]

When I was at Iowa, we had a Rocky Rococo's in the Ped Mall, best late night beer pizza......

I believe the relocated FieldHouse is currently in that spot. Rocky's late night pizza slices were right up there with the best late night ped mall vittles, along with Geroge's Gyros and Gringo's softshell tacos.

While not officially on the ped mall, Paul Revere's legendary wedgies satisfied many a late night craving.

 

[okeefe4prez]

It's all so serious now. Glad I grew up in the 80's.

Having a kid now makes me look more critically about how we treat the young'ns. I feel like there has been a gradual clamp down on "fun" over the years and the nanny state has become incredibly overbearing. A good example is these damn booster seats they make kids ride in. I saw a study that said that once a kid hits about 50-60 pounds they are no more effective than a properly fitted seat belt, but the manufacturers have convinced lawmakers they are needed and pointed to lower auto deaths per mile traveled since they were rolled out as a continued justification to use them. Uh, hey morons, the Explorer my boy rides around in is about 10,000% safer than the Chevy Chevette my mom drove me around in or the Gremlin my aunt drove my cousin around in, especially when we use the seat belt rather than an arm restraint on hard braking.

Anyway, the booze tickets are another example. Used to be the cops would just let you off or if someone was smarting off they'd haul you in but the fine was next to nothing. I got an underage drinking ticket in the '90's because one of my idiot friends called the cops pigs when they were getting ready to let us go and it was a $15 fine. Now the fine is $200. TWO HUNDRED BUCKS!!!! It is really sad that the world has seemingly been taken over by a coalition of Maude Flanders religious moralist types and Tipper Gore overprotective soccer mom types. There is no one in the legislature willing to stand up to these people and say "You know what, lady, sometimes a young man needs to let his nuts hang."

 

[HawkGold]

Having a kid now makes me look more critically about how we treat the young'ns. I feel like there has been a gradual clamp down on "fun" over the years and the nanny state has become incredibly overbearing. A good example is these damn booster seats they make kids ride in. I saw a study that said that once a kid hits about 50-60 pounds they are no more effective than a properly fitted seat belt, but the manufacturers have convinced lawmakers they are needed and pointed to lower auto deaths per mile traveled since they were rolled out as a continued justification to use them. Uh, hey morons, the Explorer my boy rides around in is about 10,000% safer than the Chevy Chevette my mom drove me around in or the Gremlin my aunt drove my cousin around in, especially when we use the seat belt rather than an arm restraint on hard braking.

Anyway, the booze tickets are another example. Used to be the cops would just let you off or if someone was smarting off they'd haul you in but the fine was next to nothing. I got an underage drinking ticket in the '90's because one of my idiot friends called the cops pigs when they were getting ready to let us go and it was a $15 fine. Now the fine is $200. TWO HUNDRED BUCKS!!!! It is really sad that the world has seemingly been taken over by a coalition of Maude Flanders religious moralist types and Tipper Gore overprotective soccer mom types. There is no one in the legislature willing to stand up to these people and say "You know what, lady, sometimes a young man needs to let his nuts hang."

Guess you are right. They've reduced deaths. Death is so fun.

UNDERAGE DRUNK DRIVING FATALITIES – NATIONAL STATISTICS
Since the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) began recording alcohol-related statistics in 1982, the number of persons under 21, killed in drunk driving crashes decreased 80% from the record high of 5,215 in 1982 to 1,031 in 2016. These fatalities account for 10% of the drunk driving fatalities in the U.S.

For every 100,000 Americans under the age of 21, 1.2 people were killed in drunk driving fatalities in 2016. The rate of under 21 drunk driving fatalities per 100,000 population has declined 45% over the past decade.

DRUNK DRIVING FATALITIES – STATE STATISTICS
Since the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) estimates national and state alcohol-impaired statistics, drunk driving statistics can vary by state for many reasons. The rate of alcohol-impaired fatalities per 100,000 population represents the number of drunk driving fatalities for every 100,000 persons in the population being measured (e.g., U.S. total vs. specific state) which allows for more like comparisons in the data.

In 2016, the drunk driving fatality rate was 3.3 per 100,000 population nationally. In 22 states and D.C., the drunk driving fatality rate per 100,000 population was at or below the national level.

 

[okeefe4prez]

Guess you are right. They've reduced deaths. Death is so fun.

UNDERAGE DRUNK DRIVING FATALITIES – NATIONAL STATISTICS
Since the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) began recording alcohol-related statistics in 1982, the number of persons under 21, killed in drunk driving crashes decreased 80% from the record high of 5,215 in 1982 to 1,031 in 2016. These fatalities account for 10% of the drunk driving fatalities in the U.S.

For every 100,000 Americans under the age of 21, 1.2 people were killed in drunk driving fatalities in 2016. The rate of under 21 drunk driving fatalities per 100,000 population has declined 45% over the past decade.

DRUNK DRIVING FATALITIES – STATE STATISTICS
Since the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) estimates national and state alcohol-impaired statistics, drunk driving statistics can vary by state for many reasons. The rate of alcohol-impaired fatalities per 100,000 population represents the number of drunk driving fatalities for every 100,000 persons in the population being measured (e.g., U.S. total vs. specific state) which allows for more like comparisons in the data.

In 2016, the drunk driving fatality rate was 3.3 per 100,000 population nationally. In 22 states and D.C., the drunk driving fatality rate per 100,000 population was at or below the national level.

These statistics are totally fake news and I will steadfastly fight against moralists like you who are now attempting to push the DUI limit down to 0.05. First, these statistics include people who did nothing wrong. As an example, if a guy is driving at 0.11 and a semi runs a red light and kills him, the drunk guy is purportedly at fault. Second, automobile deaths have plummeted as a result of safety standards on autos improving dramatically.

I hate drunk drivers. They are an easy class for politicians to go after, but the guy at 0.11 isn't the one running a church van full of kids off the road, it's the guy who's .18 or so who is the menace.

 

[MikeyLikesIowa]

Having a kid now makes me look more critically about how we treat the young'ns. I feel like there has been a gradual clamp down on "fun" over the years and the nanny state has become incredibly overbearing. A good example is these damn booster seats they make kids ride in. I saw a study that said that once a kid hits about 50-60 pounds they are no more effective than a properly fitted seat belt, but the manufacturers have convinced lawmakers they are needed and pointed to lower auto deaths per mile traveled since they were rolled out as a continued justification to use them. Uh, hey morons, the Explorer my boy rides around in is about 10,000% safer than the Chevy Chevette my mom drove me around in or the Gremlin my aunt drove my cousin around in, especially when we use the seat belt rather than an arm restraint on hard braking.

Anyway, the booze tickets are another example. Used to be the cops would just let you off or if someone was smarting off they'd haul you in but the fine was next to nothing. I got an underage drinking ticket in the '90's because one of my idiot friends called the cops pigs when they were getting ready to let us go and it was a $15 fine. Now the fine is $200. TWO HUNDRED BUCKS!!!! It is really sad that the world has seemingly been taken over by a coalition of Maude Flanders religious moralist types and Tipper Gore overprotective soccer mom types. There is no one in the legislature willing to stand up to these people and say "You know what, lady, sometimes a young man needs to let his nuts hang."

I completely agree with all of this. I've been saying for years that a kid can't be a kid anymore. We've recently been looking at child car seats, and I was unhappy to discover that they have expiration dates - even the bases the seats attach to. Ridiculous.

 

[Seth53]

Stumbling around in downtown IC is an invitation to get busted.

There must be a dozen other venues one can go and not draw attention to cops just looking to add to their quota.

 

[HawkGold]

I completely agree with all of this. I've been saying for years that a kid can't be a kid anymore. We've recently been looking at child car seats, and I was unhappy to discover that they have expiration dates - even the bases the seats attach to. Ridiculous.

Plastic materials break down in heat over time. The expiration is 6 years. They do break and replacement parts are hard to find in part due to technology changes.

1/4th of child deaths from injury are from car crashes.

The population is almost double from 1975. Deaths of children in car crashes is less than half what it was in 75.

At the risk of making Fry mad. Had a front row seat to a chain reaction interstate crash which claimed the life of a child of a family I went to church with. Never do I want to be standing next to a woman who just lost her child again. They were 2 cars behind me in the inside lane. I was in the passing lane.

 

[HawkGold]

These statistics are totally fake news and I will steadfastly fight against moralists like you who are now attempting to push the DUI limit down to 0.05. First, these statistics include people who did nothing wrong. As an example, if a guy is driving at 0.11 and a semi runs a red light and kills him, the drunk guy is purportedly at fault. Second, automobile deaths have plummeted as a result of safety standards on autos improving dramatically.

I hate drunk drivers. They are an easy class for politicians to go after, but the guy at 0.11 isn't the one running a church van full of kids off the road, it's the guy who's .18 or so who is the menace.

Where do you see these moralists trying to push it down to .05? Never met one. Drunk driving is not an easy class to go after at all. Your example of the semi driver not having fault is also fake news.

My grandfather being drunk and dying in a wreck coming back from a bar while drunk is not fake news. My uncle running over me coming back from a bar with his motor cycle is not fake news. Yes technology has aided drunk driving death reduction. So has education and stricter laws.

The "Nanny State" in part has helped create safer cars. Go to Eastern Europe and you'll find car fuel filters still over the manifold. Nanny state?

 

[okeefe4prez]

Where do you see these moralists trying to push it down to .05? Never met one. Drunk driving is not an easy class to go after at all. Your example of the semi driver not having fault is also fake news.

My grandfather being drunk and dying in a wreck coming back from a bar while drunk is not fake news. My uncle running over me coming back from a bar with his motor cycle is not fake news. Yes technology has aided drunk driving death reduction. So has education and stricter laws.

The "Nanny State" in part has helped create safer cars. Go to Eastern Europe and you'll find car fuel filters still over the manifold. Nanny state?

Utah is going to 0.05. Give it a few years and guys like you will want it lowered further. My example of the semi is not about fault, it is about faulty statistics. An imperfection of data collection is that every accident where a driver has alcohol in their system winds up in the aggregate statistics without regard to fault.

So about your uncle running over you on his motorcycle, did your head happen to bounce off of the concrete pretty hard?

 

[HawkGold]

Utah is going to 0.05. Give it a few years and guys like you will want it lowered further. My example of the semi is not about fault, it is about faulty statistics. An imperfection of data collection is that every accident where a driver has alcohol in their system winds up in the aggregate statistics without regard to fault.

So about your uncle running over you on his motorcycle, did your head happen to bounce off of the concrete pretty hard?

Guys like me? Laughable. Stricter enforcement of current laws is fine. No idea about Utah. An no, my head wasn't involved but it sure did hurt like hell. I was 9 or so. You also have no real idea about statistics and how they are done.

 

[Fryowa]

So about your uncle running over you on his motorcycle, did your head happen to bounce off of the concrete pretty hard?

No, that was in @HawkGold Mitty's story about his dad driving a tractor hitting some railroad tracks while he was on the drawbar, launching him up on the rear tire and bouncing him around between the tire and the fender, almost killing him. He narrowly escaped with his life and had to walk 37 miles back home.

 

[Adam]

I knew it. Effin ICPD. He was doing the responsible thing.

The thing that I don't understand is how you are allowed to drink in public, but the second you are drunk your magically supposed to teleport home.

The kid was just trying to get a ride home and these cops are complete assholes. "Serve and protect" I think the former seems to be forgotten the most.

I have been disgusted by the actions of the IC gestapo many times, but this is some new heights douche baggery.

 

[Adam]

Plastic materials break down in heat over time. The expiration is 6 years. They do break and replacement parts are hard to find in part due to technology changes.

1/4th of child deaths from injury are from car crashes.

The population is almost double from 1975. Deaths of children in car crashes is less than half what it was in 75.

At the risk of making Fry mad. Had a front row seat to a chain reaction interstate crash which claimed the life of a child of a family I went to church with. Never do I want to be standing next to a woman who just lost her child again. They were 2 cars behind me in the inside lane. I was in the passing lane.

What does any of this have to do with a 22 year old young man stumbling drunkenly to what he thought was his Uber?

 

[HawkGold]

No, that was in @HawkGold Mitty's story about his dad driving a tractor hitting some railroad tracks while he was on the drawbar, launching him up on the rear tire and bouncing him around between the tire and the fender, almost killing him. He narrowly escaped with his life and had to walk 37 miles back home.

It wasn't 37 miles. Get your facts right. The real Fry didn't exaggerate.

 

[HawkGold]

What does any of this have to do with a 22 year old young man stumbling drunkenly to what he thought was his Uber?

It was in response to MLI.

 

[Fryowa]

What does any of this have to do with a 22 year old young man stumbling drunkenly to what he thought was his Uber?

It was because he wanted to spin us another yarn on granddad’s knee.

@HawkGold , is there anything you haven’t seen in your lifetime? Why don’t we just start with the life experiences you haven’t had since it’s such a small list.

You’ve been witness to just about every possible personal tragedy imaginable (with conspicuously way more detail than most people remember, btw). Can you tell us about your tsunami experience and how you managed to deal with all the death and dismemberment? I’ve always wondered what that was like.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Exactly. He's of age and did the responsible thing in trying to get an Uber. Daddy Kirk isn't "pleased" though, so he's probably gonna have to clean some stairwells with a toothbrush or something.

Problem is, IF Kirk lets it go, certain folks (yourself possibly included) still go into attack mode. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

That said, suspension is wrong IMO. Then again, the arrest itself was wrong. That, or the law needs overhauled. You can be drunk in a bar, but the second you step outside you're breaking the law? Not right at all, no matter what pontification Gold wants to put forth.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

I believe the relocated FieldHouse is currently in that spot. Rocky's late night pizza slices were right up there with the best late night ped mall vittles, along with Geroge's Gyros and Gringo's softshell tacos.

While not officially on the ped mall, Paul Revere's legendary wedgies satisfied many a late night craving.

1980s. Bagel Buggy. /discussion on late-night, post-bar Ped Mall food.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Having a kid now makes me look more critically about how we treat the young'ns. I feel like there has been a gradual clamp down on "fun" over the years and the nanny state has become incredibly overbearing. A good example is these damn booster seats they make kids ride in. I saw a study that said that once a kid hits about 50-60 pounds they are no more effective than a properly fitted seat belt, but the manufacturers have convinced lawmakers they are needed and pointed to lower auto deaths per mile traveled since they were rolled out as a continued justification to use them. Uh, hey morons, the Explorer my boy rides around in is about 10,000% safer than the Chevy Chevette my mom drove me around in or the Gremlin my aunt drove my cousin around in, especially when we use the seat belt rather than an arm restraint on hard braking.

Anyway, the booze tickets are another example. Used to be the cops would just let you off or if someone was smarting off they'd haul you in but the fine was next to nothing. I got an underage drinking ticket in the '90's because one of my idiot friends called the cops pigs when they were getting ready to let us go and it was a $15 fine. Now the fine is $200. TWO HUNDRED BUCKS!!!! It is really sad that the world has seemingly been taken over by a coalition of Maude Flanders religious moralist types and Tipper Gore overprotective soccer mom types. There is no one in the legislature willing to stand up to these people and say "You know what, lady, sometimes a young man needs to let his nuts hang."

A very high-quality rant. And spot-on.

 

[HawkGold]

It was because he wanted to spin us another yarn on granddad’s knee.

@HawkGold , is there anything you haven’t seen in your lifetime? Why don’t we just start with the life experiences you haven’t had since it’s such a small list.

You’ve been witness to just about every possible personal tragedy imaginable (with conspicuously way more detail than most people remember, btw). Can you tell us about your tsunami experience and how you managed to deal with all the death and dismemberment? I’ve always wondered what that was like.

No I can't answer that. Sorry. I do have a couple of hot button issues as we all do, yourself included. You wouldn't think about some of these if we weren't on opposite sides of the coin. Sorry to wind you up. We all come on here with personality twists which includes yourself. Since you feel free to give feed back, you should also accept it. You and a couple of others (one of which has toned things down) struggle with impulse control on insults are rates higher than most. If you check back, therein is where most of my more detailed responses come from. Sometimes you do it in fun and to be frank it is hysterically funny. Sometimes it's over the top. Your style is naturally on the not so subtle subtle side and at times quite pointed. If you don't care for ramped up responses, don't ramp it up yourself and curtail the HF sound alike gig which btw, he generally didn't do. Generally if there is an argument on here you are involved most of the time.

Much of the arguing on here is really quite similar and wouldn't happen if we weren't fans of a certain sports program that at times has been of the verge of greatness, but always seems to manage to pull agony out of excitement due to very little things. In reality though, this forum is actually quite tame. There was a poster who would post under different names and argue with the same person (s) but that has greatly diminished.

Btw, how is your baseball team doing or did it do? Must be in football practice mode now?