Kyle Calloway got a 1 game suspension for driving drunk on a moped and was going to be a senior. Shaun Prater got a 2 game suspension last year for an OWI driving a car and was going to be a sophmore. I say Binns gets a 2 game suspension.
Binns in trouble?
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Kyle Calloway got a 1 game suspension for driving drunk on a moped and was going to be a senior. Shaun Prater got a 2 game suspension last year for an OWI driving a car and was going to be a sophmore. I say Binns gets a 2 game suspension.
This is exactly right. I played football in college (granted not anywhere close to d1) and we had kids kicked of the team for getting dui and such. He should be suspended a min of 2 games. This is just unreal. If the alcohol was that important, why not invite some people over and drink at home?
HawkeyeState81
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I'm pretty sure there is someone who would be honored to give him a ride home. But first thigns first, don't drink at a freaking bar when you are 20!!!! I didn't touch a bar until I was 21, these kids need to get their heads out of their butts...
brewhawk23
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pretty dumb move especially given the potential of this years team. I graduated from Iowa recently and it doesnt take a very smart person to realize that cops are out to get OWI and other violations to anyone driving after midnight.......stupid
spudhawk
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I am sure no one feels worse about his decision than he does. I am pretty sure he understands what he is working for this summer. Beating him up on a message board is super effective. I am sure all of us have lived perfect lives and having nothing to regret in our late teens or early twenties.
Football wise I suspect he will be suspended two games. I wonder if Daniels won't start at tackle and Ballard slide out to end for the first two games?
Football wise I suspect he will be suspended two games. I wonder if Daniels won't start at tackle and Ballard slide out to end for the first two games?
HawkeyeState81
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You would be right if we weren't dealing with this every single year and to the amount of issues Iowa seems to have, there is a major problem here.
SuperNovaHawk
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Pretty sure I would give up drinking for a chance to play for the Hawks.
ISUhawk
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Ahhh I see what you were saying. I heard that too.
Hawkfromnorwalk
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It'll be two games like Prater. We won't need him for EIU but I hate that he will miss the ISU game. We need all hands on deck from week 2 onward.
Problem is that his actions dont only just affect himself, but the whole team he plays with. If you get picked up for OWI, it affects you and your family. His family is the Iowa football team. Some of these players need to mature and act like adults. Its not that difficult to stay away from the bars. And like i said earlier, if wants to drink; invite some friends over and drink at home.
HaydensDad
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I would guess that every single above poster has driven with a .101 BAC or higher. For most of us that can be as few as 2-4 beers (depending on time frame), or even 1 strong beer. This is a ridiculous law to punish someone the same for having a few drinks and stilll driving responsibly versus getting loaded to the point where its dangerous. I know when I was younger and dumber I have been around .101 and been completly fine to drive and thought "screw it, i'm over the limit anyway. I might as well have another". I don't see this violation as any worse than a speeding ticket or Jaywalking. The punishment (~$7000 in fines and insurance hikes) certainly does not fit the crime. If he blew .25 or something it would be a different story. I guarantee BB was perfectly fine to drive. I agree he shouldn't have done it because it is illegal and he just damaged his top ten team, but shame on all of you that are throwing him under the bus as some sort of monster that risks killing kids. You are bad Iowa fans.
BTW, If you are that close to blowing legal I believe you can request to talk to your lawyer before doing sobriety test for up to 30 minutes, and then you can request a blood test which is back at the cop shop. You should be below .08 by that point. I've been told that works anyway.
BTW, If you are that close to blowing legal I believe you can request to talk to your lawyer before doing sobriety test for up to 30 minutes, and then you can request a blood test which is back at the cop shop. You should be below .08 by that point. I've been told that works anyway.
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Sounds like this is something you do quite often, not setting a very good example are ya?
IHawks2044
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I hear what you are saying in that it doesn't sound like he was out driiving through playgrounds and forcing people off the road, but the legal limit is set at .08 and there's no wiggle room there. I have also been dumb and driven when I have had too many, so I am not going to throw Binns under the bus because I know how you can feel fine yet be over the limit. But everyone has different reflexes and reactionary speed at different levels of intoxication, so to say that someone blowing a .101 shouldn't be punished is something I can't completely agree with.
I think the major problem people are having is that these kids see the same things every year, their teammates and the people they spend the most time with getting arrested for various reasons, and yet they don't learn from the lessons of those around them. Personally, I think its part of the growing process. Some will see what's going on around them and walk the straight line, but some will lose themselves in having fun during their limited free time and make a mistake. You just hope that one mistake is enough to teach the lesson.
Churlish79
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Says University Heights.. from my time at Iowa, I can promise you, they do not add their tickets/offenses to the Iowa City police blotter.
HawkeyeState81
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Are you kidding me???? He ran a stop sign, that is real responsible. Drunk driving and responsible cannot be used in the same sentence let alone the same massive post....
+1
I realize that he is a player and he is going to be a future star (I thought at the end of last year he dominated as much as anyone else on the D-line) and shouldn't be doing things like this. But . . .
I'm kind of repulsed of the holier than though attitude some of you guys are holding in regards to the players. He made a mistake and this kind of thing can hurt the team but he's also a 20 year old kid.
Many of the grown men here idolize these kids and think they are gods, they aren't, they are kids who are great athletes. While your hopes and dreams of a national title and the like are damaged by one of the starters getting into trouble like this, don't forget they are human. When I was in college I did a bunch of stupid things too.
Unless you walked the straight and narrow your entire life you really have no right to pass judgment on these guys for something simple like a "barely over the old legal limit" OWI. I'm not excusing his actions and hopefully he'll get a big enough punishment from the law and the coaching staff to wake other players up.
However, have any of you guys ever watched a movie about college? Did you go to college? Did you go to Iowa, a party school?
Again, I'm not saying what he did is excusable, but he is human and 20 years old so cut a little slack.
busabus114
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There is really no possible way to craft a reasonable argument to defend Binns' actions. He made a mistake and he will pay the consequences.
Whats frustrating as a fan is that this is the 3rd arrest this summer. Anyone want to bet that there wont be another one? If I set the over/under at 1.5 for # of arrests for the rest of the summer what would you bet?
Whats frustrating as a fan is that this is the 3rd arrest this summer. Anyone want to bet that there wont be another one? If I set the over/under at 1.5 for # of arrests for the rest of the summer what would you bet?
That is correct. You don't even need a lawyer unless the officer is a huge jerk. Plus, if you do blow slightly over, you can ask them to start filling out any needed paperwork, and then allow you to blow again. If you have no priors and are being considerate, it is a reasonable request. The field meters are usually accurate to .01-.03. I have seen many from .09-.11 thrown out. The problem is BB is not 21, so basically all of those things are thrown out the window.....
+1
I realize that he is a player and he is going to be a future star (I thought at the end of last year he dominated as much as anyone else on the D-line) and shouldn't be doing things like this. But . . .
I'm kind of repulsed of the holier than though attitude some of you guys are holding in regards to the players. He made a mistake and this kind of thing can hurt the team but he's also a 20 year old kid.
Many of the grown men here idolize these kids and think they are gods, they aren't, they are kids who are great athletes. While your hopes and dreams of a national title and the like are damaged by one of the starters getting into trouble like this, don't forget they are human. When I was in college I did a bunch of stupid things too.
Unless you walked the straight and narrow your entire life you really have no right to pass judgment on these guys for something simple like a "barely over the old legal limit" OWI. I'm not excusing his actions and hopefully he'll get a big enough punishment from the law and the coaching staff to wake other players up.
However, have any of you guys ever watched a movie about college? Did you go to college? Did you go to Iowa, a party school?
Again, I'm not saying what he did is excusable, but he is human and 20 years old so cut a little slack.
Ive done stupid things in my life too. But when i break the law, i dont expect be giving any slack. I guess i was raised differently. So because he is 20 and plays for Iowa, he should be given slack and we should just make excuses as to why he should not be punished?
HaydensDad
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I'm not necessarily suggesting that .101 doesn't warrant punishment, I'm saying it doesn't warrant the same punishment as .25. While .101 may be a bit more dangerous than normal safe driving, it certainly isn't the same as getting sloppy drunk and ramming your car into a school bus or something. I feel the punishment should be graduated in 2-3 levels, just as assault or murder or shoplifting or speeding or almost every other law have punishments that correlate to the magnitude of the crime. This is a logical, common sense concept that I can't imagine anyone would disagree with.
