Big, PAC, ACC Alliance???

okeefe4prez said:
The NCAA's biggest fear was always antitrust. I don't know to what extent the conferences have this fear, but they should. I'm sure most of us are old enough to remember the days when you got two games a week on TV. That sucked. But the power schools, including Oklahoma and Georgia, sued the NCAA because the NCAA was restricting the supply of televised games to drive the price of the license of TV rights up. The case went to the Supreme Court and the NCAA got its ass handed to it.

Same thing just happened with the payment of players case. Cost the NCAA $37 million in legal fees to lose. My point is, if these shit bag conferences want to band together to prevent the formation of a 12 team playoff, which seriously every fan wants, to me it is a slam dunk antitrust case if they act in a concerted manner to restrict the output of college football games. If they pull this shit, the SEC should just move 2 of its biggest rivalry games to championship Saturday, obliterate the TV ratings of the shitty conference title games and then make its own slate of bowl games that are just compelling SEC matchups that are all held on January 1 and call the winner of the SEC championship game the national champ. The so-called "Alliance" can have its Rose Bowl go head to head against the Alabama Georgia game and they can watch in horror as the Rose Bowl's TV ratings get cut in half and even more as fans tire of watching OSU versus USC or Washington or Oregon every year.
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I think it could go the other way to. Over time, the SEC could be in their little bubble that they created while 3/4 of the country could be interested in "The Alliance" match-ups or Rose Bowl.

People may be willing to let the SEC doing their own thang with players that wouldn't even be able to qualify for school at a real university or college as a student-athlete. The SEC is a crap excuse for college athletics. It's merely a farm system now for football.
 
IAHocks82 said:
I think “leaving ISU in the dust” is a terrible idea. They are quite literally the ONLY exciting football in Iowa. Their coach is there to stay for the foreseeable future, and he puts playmakers on the field, which is something we’re not used to. It’s uncomfortable seeing it in other programs, but that’s what coaches who want to win do.
having them as a yearly game will always push Iowa to do “enough” to beat them. Which slightly increases our offensive mindset in at least one game a year. Not to mention, they prepare us well for pac-12 teams.

It’s really strange how grown adults cannot see the big picture because ISU is a rival.
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It's really strange how ISU's just had the best season in the history of their program and suddenly the bars been raised forever. I'm not saying they can't sustain it, but lets be real, I think were giving them way too much credit.
 
kicker22 said:
It's really strange how ISU's just had the best season in the history of their program and suddenly the bars been raised forever. I'm not saying they can't sustain it, but lets be real, I think were giving them way too much credit.
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I'm not from Missouri but I've been there before and they'd have to show me. History says ISU has had so very precious few good seasons and that they haven't been national relevant up till recently. So to assume that they can sustain it for very long wouldn't be something I'd take to the bank and neither would other conferences either...

All these moves are being made with long term implications in mind. Is Campbell going to be at ISU in 5 yrs? I mean all this is about the next 20 plus yrs of TV contracts and however the streaming services are going to get involved. TV wise ISU adds less then nothing. Ticket sales are great locally and all but irrelevant to the larger discussion. They even travel ok which is good for them but they can't hold a candle to Iowa in that regard and still wouldn't move the needle enough.

The last big 12 team we added didn't pan out so hot and they have more of a history and track record of being relevant. Just ask em....
 
kicker22 said:
It's really strange how ISU's just had the best season in the history of their program and suddenly the bars been raised forever. I'm not saying they can't sustain it, but lets be real, I think were giving them way too much credit.
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And FYI, that shitbird won't be replying to you. He's flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Honk Kong right now.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
They even travel ok which is good for them but they can't hold a candle to Iowa in that regard and still wouldn't move the needle enough.
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Ask anyone on CryFan and they'll tell you they travel the best of any school in the nation and their tv ratings are the best in the country as well.

No one there can come to grips with the fact that they're going to be heading to the orphanage soon.
 
Wannstedt (Former Bears coach) was quoted today saying he hears B1G taking Kansas and ISU to get to 16 teams. Then PAC 12 taking OSU & KSU, leaving the TX teams in the dust. He heard lots of rumors at the FOX meetings.
 
kicker22 said:
It's really strange how ISU's just had the best season in the history of their program and suddenly the bars been raised forever. I'm not saying they can't sustain it, but lets be real, I think were giving them way too much credit.
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And that best season came on a weird covid year. Not saying the season deserves an asterisk, but it is really, really close. imo, they are a 9-3/8-4 football team that will have to hit the reset button next season.
 
Hawkboys said:
Wannstedt (Former Bears coach) was quoted today saying he hears B1G taking Kansas and ISU to get to 16 teams. Then PAC 12 taking OSU & KSU, leaving the TX teams in the dust. He heard lots of rumors at the FOX meetings.
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Maybe I am in the minority, but I can't take Wannstedt seriously. Sorry, just can't...not on this.
 
IAHocks82 said:
I think “leaving ISU in the dust” is a terrible idea. They are quite literally the ONLY exciting football in Iowa. Their coach is there to stay for the foreseeable future, and he puts playmakers on the field, which is something we’re not used to. It’s uncomfortable seeing it in other programs, but that’s what coaches who want to win do.
having them as a yearly game will always push Iowa to do “enough” to beat them. Which slightly increases our offensive mindset in at least one game a year. Not to mention, they prepare us well for pac-12 teams.

It’s really strange how grown adults cannot see the big picture because ISU is a rival.
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If ISU plays exciting football and puts playmakers all over the field what does that make us for owning a five game heater against them?

As for the playmakers we never put on the field, they are all over the NFL and more are coming. And yes, I include LBS, DB's and TE's as playmakers.
 
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Fryowa said:
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Actually kind of funny. You posted earlier this morning that you didn't recall banning a troll, then you have to run one literally hours later.

I can recall one you banned. @smitharooney. He was primarily a basketball troll who was mercifully shown the door last spring.
 
Hawkboys said:
Wannstedt (Former Bears coach) was quoted today saying he hears B1G taking Kansas and ISU to get to 16 teams. Then PAC 12 taking OSU & KSU, leaving the TX teams in the dust. He heard lots of rumors at the FOX meetings.
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Wannstedt’s head injured, man.

Just in his one little sound bite he forgot what he was talking about four times. Listen to it. The dude can barely make a full sentence.
 
IAHocks82 said:
I think “leaving ISU in the dust” is a terrible idea. They are quite literally the ONLY exciting football in Iowa. Their coach is there to stay for the foreseeable future, and he puts playmakers on the field, which is something we’re not used to. It’s uncomfortable seeing it in other programs, but that’s what coaches who want to win do.
having them as a yearly game will always push Iowa to do “enough” to beat them. Which slightly increases our offensive mindset in at least one game a year. Not to mention, they prepare us well for pac-12 teams.

It’s really strange how grown adults cannot see the big picture because ISU is a rival.
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With the demise of the Big XII, Campbell will bolt ISU quickly.
 
Hawkboys said:
Wannstedt (Former Bears coach) was quoted today saying he hears B1G taking Kansas and ISU to get to 16 teams. Then PAC 12 taking OSU & KSU, leaving the TX teams in the dust. He heard lots of rumors at the FOX meetings.
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No, he didn't hear rumors. A rumor is something like "Hey, my buddy is senior at GM and he told me they are trying to launch a new electric Silverado that they are jointly building with Tesla." It has a source, perhaps several people removed. It may or not prove true, but there is usually a source with at least a plausible air of credibility.

What Wannstedt heard at the FOX meetings was mere speculation. Conference moves pretty much always come out of the blue. There is talking head speculation ahead of time, but the conferences and affected schools are tighter lipped than British Intelligence in 1943. Recall, if you will, a few weeks ago when the Texas-OU thing was announced. There were no rumors. It just happened. Bam. Recall Rutgers and Maryland joining the B1G. Same deal.

There is no trust in these deals. The circle who knows is small. You don't want word to leak and then state politburos getting involved and shit, so you have to just move.
 
okeefe4prez said:
No, he didn't hear rumors. A rumor is something like "Hey, my buddy is senior at GM and he told me they are trying to launch a new electric Silverado that they are jointly building with Tesla." It has a source, perhaps several people removed. It may or not prove true, but there is usually a source with at least a plausible air of credibility.

What Wannstedt heard at the FOX meetings was mere speculation. Conference moves pretty much always come out of the blue. There is talking head speculation ahead of time, but the conferences and affected schools are tighter lipped than British Intelligence in 1943. Recall, if you will, a few weeks ago when the Texas-OU thing was announced. There were no rumors. It just happened. Bam. Recall Rutgers and Maryland joining the B1G. Same deal.

There is no trust in these deals. The circle who knows is small. You don't want word to leak and then state politburos getting involved and shit, so you have to just move.
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Correct. Wannstedt is full of shit.

He got what he was trying to get from that sound bite. Attention.
 
Hawkboys said:
Wannstedt (Former Bears coach) was quoted today saying he hears B1G taking Kansas and ISU to get to 16 teams. Then PAC 12 taking OSU & KSU, leaving the TX teams in the dust. He heard lots of rumors at the FOX meetings.
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That rumor (KU and ISU to the B1G) was flying around right when OK and TX left but I haven't heard much about it since. One Kansas writer supposedly in the know said the invites were "imminent". It doesn't make sense to add two teams that would dilute the payout to the existing teams. And OSU and KSU don't have much of anything in common with the PAC12 schools.
 
Fryowa said:
Correct. Wannstedt is full of shit.

He got what he was trying to get from that sound bite. Attention.
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He was probably full of bourbon.

Former Jimmy Johnson assistants are all lushes. They learned from the master himself.

When Wanny does his regular season football bits for 670 The Score he's usually deep into the sauce. It's the equivalent of an @earlkoppelman visit to these boards.
 
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