BF calling an awful game

ArvadaHawk said:
last night was (another) example of Iowa not having the balls to be aggressive on offense. we tell ourselves we give brian a pass (pun intended) in the first quarter for not throwing the ball because of field position. you need to be safe and can't risk a mistake. but then he calls a lateral play (pitch) from one guy standing in our end zone to another standing (7 yards deep) in our end zone and that isn't a risk? fuggin stupid chit like that gets you beat by 2 points. It would be refreshing for brian to come out and say "hey, i didn't do well, last night. that game is on me." because if i was a defensive player, i'd be effing pissed at brian. and if i was phil parker, i'd be in brian's and kok's faces asking them what the fug were they doing last night. but, this is iowa and these are the ferentz', so no accountability will be shown.
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It's good to know I'm not the only one willing to point the obvious. Wish the Iowa media members spent more time doing this instead of worrying about their press passes.
 
I didn't write that it was a great loss. I also wrote that it wasn't BF's best night. The safety was a brutal call.

Was the offensive game plan too conservative? I can see a case being made for that. But BF had nothing to do with the Hawkeye receivers/TEs dropping passes. I believe there were four or five drops among the first nine passes. Those were drive killers.

Bottom line, the overall game plan from Iowa was to make it a four-quarter game with a crack at winning at the end. It came up one-play short.

But, I get it. Some people want their pound of flesh. Offensive coordinators and media members are low hanging fruit.
 
RobHowe said:
I didn't write that it was a great loss. I also wrote that it wasn't BF's best night. The safety was a brutal call.

Was the offensive game plan too conservative? I can see a case being made for that. But BF had nothing to do with the Hawkeye receivers/TEs dropping passes. I believe there were four or five drops among the first nine passes. Those were drive killers.

Bottom line, the overall game plan from Iowa was to make it a four-quarter game with a crack at winning at the end. It came up one-play short.

But, I get it. Some people want their pound of flesh. Offensive coordinators and media members are low hanging fruit.
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The end zone play was bad, given what PSU was doing, and I believe BF stuck to the inside runs about 8-10 times too many. That said, the early drops really hurt the flow, 2-3 of them were drive extenders.

The first half(And first series if 2nd) playcalling wasn't good, and I'd like to see more calls like the last 3-4 series....and I could be wrong...but I think we may have if we moved the chains a few times early in the game.

It may be the wrong philosophy, and it's maddening at times, but execution still remains king under Ferentz(both of them).

Draws, delays, quick play action all worked...but its gotta happen sooner...
 
Stating the obvious that this was not a great night for Brian Ferentz. However, I will take him over Greg Davis forever. If Davis were still the OC, we would have seen about 20 horizontal pass plays last night and it would have been awful.

I would like to know why Young and Kelly-Martin didn't see the field nore and get some carries.
 
I like this offense. I think they have a chance to be really really good. Our QB has 12 TDs and one interception. BF was just way too conservative with poor field position...and our receivers have to catch the ball. My only gripe is that we didn't take deep shots when we were backed up. The way our punter was struggling, let Stanley chuck a few deep ones..it would probably prove better than a punt. You have to do something to flip field position or you just waste all the stops our defense was getting early...which is what happened.

I'm disappointed, but if anyone was wondering about Iowa Football and the atmosphere in Kinnick Stadium, well, it's alive and well. The stadium looked incredible on TV, the tradition, the toughness, and the never say die attitude came through with shining colors. The other team has the best player in college football and it's not even close...and they got 100 plays on offense to give it to him. Credit them...they ride their horse better than Wild Bill Hickok. Tough to overcome that.
 
Deep shots...draw PI.

Do. It. Sooner.

Play action...quick throw. Do it earlier.

By all means...grind the run, but throw off it...sooner.
 
HawkeyeWalker said:
You think So? He is better thrower and likely see the field as well or better, but they are very different in terms of movement ability. So no, he doesn't do all those things. Apples to oranges.
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He makes thise plays his apple way not orange. KF strategy is gimmick in big games. Hawks had the ability to win without the gommicks.
 
hawkeyes87 said:
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means, what you think it means."
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It can be used a variety of different ways. Its not like smashing records at Cicago gimmicky but I wasnt trying to be complemenatary either. Its a gimmick to get some of you to think we are little ole Iowa and cant play straight up w PSU. Its a gimmick that set up a Wadley score. It worked. Id rather see Wadley have a chance the whole game. Imagine if PSU ran their premier back straight to Jewell most of the game.
 
After about the 20th time they ran Wadley into the left side of the line for no gain, there were audible boo's coming from our section. Disheartening to see we only open it up when it's a do-or-die situation.
 
HawkGold said:
It can be used a variety of different ways. Its not like smashing records at Cicago gimmicky but I wasnt trying to be complemenatary either. Its a gimmick to get some of you to think we are little ole Iowa and cant play straight up w PSU. Its a gimmick that set up a Wadley score. It worked. Id rather see Wadley have a chance the whole game. Imagine if PSU ran their premier back straight to Jewell most of the game.
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So gamecalling and strategy is a gimmick, for everyone. If that's how you are defining it, fine, but it'd be strange.

Yeah, I think everyone agrees we ran to much into a stacked line. While that likely wasn't great strategy, it wasn't "gimmicky.
 
RobHowe said:
I didn't write that it was a great loss. I also wrote that it wasn't BF's best night. The safety was a brutal call.

Was the offensive game plan too conservative? I can see a case being made for that. But BF had nothing to do with the Hawkeye receivers/TEs dropping passes. I believe there were four or five drops among the first nine passes. Those were drive killers.

Bottom line, the overall game plan from Iowa was to make it a four-quarter game with a crack at winning at the end. It came up one-play short.

But, I get it. Some people want their pound of flesh. Offensive coordinators and media members are low hanging fruit.
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Dropping passes seems to be a problem at Iowa.

Every game is meant to be a four quarter game, it's why we lose games to lower division schools.

Props to the defense for not breaking but we can't expect that performance every week. Given up over 600 yards of offense and normally we have 40+ point deficit.

It's just tiring to watch offense under KF. 2012 and on has been some of the most boring schemes and games ever seen.

Imagine if Wadley wasn't around.

On to MSU
 
Seth53 said:
After about the 20th time they ran Wadley into the left side of the line for no gain, there were audible boo's coming from our section. Disheartening to see we only open it up when it's a do-or-die situation.
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Yeah, that is frustrating. Hell, I'm a KF guy, and don't mind committing to the run, but we can't wait so long to throw from it. About 8 less 1st/2nd down runs into stack line would have made me feel better about the playcalling.
 
DBAHawkFan said:
Dropping passes seems to be a problem at Iowa.

Every game is meant to be a four quarter game, it's why we lose games to lower division schools.

Props to the defense for not breaking but we can't expect that performance every week. Given up over 600 yards of offense and normally we have 40+ point deficit.

It's just tiring to watch offense under KF. 2012 and on has been some of the most boring schemes and games ever seen.

Imagine if Wadley wasn't around.

On to MSU
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This is fair. I had seen some changes in the first 3 games that were promising, and I do think there have been noticeable improvements in scheme. But too afraid to throw after the early drops...and that's not good...
 
Stanley also was checking out of a lot of plays. Several offense players after the game said PSU gave them quite a few new looks. James Daniels said they blitzed about 95 percent of the time.
 
HawkeyeWalker said:
So gamecalling and strategy is a gimmick, for everyone. If that's how you are defining it, fine, but it'd be strange.

Yeah, I think everyone agrees we ran to much into a stacked line. While that likely wasn't great strategy, it wasn't "gimmicky.
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In a sense you are right about "gimmick" but how KF uses strategy it seems fitting to me.
 
RobHowe said:
I didn't write that it was a great loss. I also wrote that it wasn't BF's best night. The safety was a brutal call.

Was the offensive game plan too conservative? I can see a case being made for that. But BF had nothing to do with the Hawkeye receivers/TEs dropping passes. I believe there were four or five drops among the first nine passes. Those were drive killers.

Bottom line, the overall game plan from Iowa was to make it a four-quarter game with a crack at winning at the end. It came up one-play short.

But, I get it. Some people want their pound of flesh. Offensive coordinators and media members are low hanging fruit.
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No, rob, it isn't a pound of flesh. that's changing the subject. it's the lack of aggression TO make it a 4 quarter game. What's wrong with trying to beat PSU by more than one score? Saquon Barkley is good, damn good, the best I've seen in a long while. But with our defense only allowing 13 points in the first 98 plays, we could have been up by 2 scores on the 99th play. No one can cover Fant down the seam. The one time (I recall that) we tried it he was wide open but for an intentional defensive pass interference to save a td. PSU isn't as good as their hype. Barkley is better than his hype (of that's possible) and HE kept PSU in the game or we could have smoked them...if we had actually had an offensive game plan to try and do that.
 
RobHowe said:
I didn't write that it was a great loss. I also wrote that it wasn't BF's best night. The safety was a brutal call.

Was the offensive game plan too conservative? I can see a case being made for that. But BF had nothing to do with the Hawkeye receivers/TEs dropping passes. I believe there were four or five drops among the first nine passes. Those were drive killers.

Bottom line, the overall game plan from Iowa was to make it a four-quarter game with a crack at winning at the end. It came up one-play short.

But, I get it. Some people want their pound of flesh. Offensive coordinators and media members are low hanging fruit.
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Respect your take but disagree that the drops were the major drive killers. The drive killers were the negative plays running the football on first and second down. Sure the drops hurt but you can't be second, third and long every drive because you're running into a brick wall. The offensive game plan was bad...It's not that It wasn't BFs best night, it's that he had a brutal night. His game plan for 52 minutes was frustrating and too conservative...Davis level frustrating.
 
The game isn't all on Brian. But Kirks 3 offensive coordinators

KOK
Greg Davis
First born male

That's the best he can do? How do we know Polasek isn't better than all 3 of them? According to our HC he is better than all 3 of them if you listened to how he praised Polaseks old team before and after they beat us.

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...brian-hired-iowa-hawkeyes-pool-102-applicants


IOWA CITY, Iowa -- The son of Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz beat out 100 other applicants (giggles) for a position on his father's staff and was given a salary $15,000 higher than a second assistant coach hired at the same time, according to documents released Friday.
 
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