Best Case Scenario Starting 5 Next Year

I could also go with Sportstalent's starting five....

Gesell
Jok
Uthoff'
White
Woody......

That is a good lineup with Oglesby coming off the bench. He might be one of those players who play better off the bench when we are struggling scoring.....

Would love to see him shoot more, Uthoff also.....
 
I could also go with Sportstalent's starting five....

Gesell
Jok
Uthoff'
White
Woody......

That is a good lineup with Oglesby coming off the bench. He might be one of those players who play better off the bench when we are struggling scoring.....

Would love to see him shoot more, Uthoff also.....

Agree with this. Oglesby is a good shooter who can provide a spark off the bench like he did against Minnesota and Wisconsin in CHA this year. He's a role player, and a pretty good one at that.
 
1-Dickerson/Gesell
2-jok/oglesby
3-uthoff/jok
4-white/olaseni
5-Woodbury/olaseni

If we don't get Atwood then may god help us all

I don't think God is an Iowa fan. I think he is a Duke fan playing devil's advocate.
 
Gabe clearly hit a brick wall the final month of the season. However, Woodbury seemed to gain confidence and showed a lot of promise for the future. As Reggie Miller pointed out, Olaseni needs to get in the weight room!
Show me a Hawk who wouldn't benefit tremendously from added strength.. Woody, maybe?
Besides in the Tennessee game, Gabe was playing against that forward/center who was a mountain man, a yeti. I doubt Iowa will see a center like that again unless they play New Mexico State. The coaching staff just needed to devise a different guarding strategy for the Tennessee hulk.

What a clash. Tennessee and New Mexico State....
 
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Show me a Hawk who wouldn't benefit tremendously from added strength.. Woody, maybe?
Besides in the Tennessee game, Gabe was playing against that forward/center who was a mountain man, a yeti. I doubt Iowa will see a center like that again unless they play New Mexico State. The coaching staff just needed to devise a different guarding strategy for the Tennessee hulk

What a clash. Tennessee and New Mexico State....

Good point.....I can't!
 
1-Dickerson/Gesell
2-jok/oglesby
3-uthoff/jok
4-white/olaseni
5-Woodbury/olaseni

If we don't get Atwood then may god help us all

This is correct, if we get Atwood he will be the nd 4. People answer is Jok all Iowa needed this year was a guy who can light it up with jumpers and hit FT's. Jok is the answer.
 
I think white moves to the 4 unless we get both of them. Gabe isn't a 4 he is a back up 5 at this point and will probably never over take woody. But he makes too many errors defensively and lacks too much offensively to play the 4.

If Gabe can consistently hit the 10-12 footer, I think he could play the 4 because of his athleticism. He beats entire teams down the court, i don't think that is an issue.

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Agree with this. Gabe just isn't skilled enough offensively to play the 4. He'll be Woody's backup next year.
Not to toot my own horn, but TOOOT TOOOT!
 
Gesell
Ogelsby
Uthoff
White
Woody

^if it's anything other then that I will be floored... and it's a hell of a line up with TONS of upperclassman and experience IMO. Maybe our strongest starting lineup in a decade.
 
Gesell
Ogelsby
Uthoff
White
Woody

^if it's anything other then that I will be floored... and it's a hell of a line up with TONS of upperclassman and experience IMO. Maybe our strongest starting lineup in a decade.

This is where you overreached.
 
Ogelsby starting is an issue in my opinion. I have no issue him coming off the bench as a shooter but he's not the kid from Baylor last year. He's not that good of a shooter and he's not a good defender.

I was really looking for Jok to start. He has the talent we need at the 2.
 
This is where you overreached.

I don't feel like I am reaching at all. From an experience stand point, I can't remember a line up that consisted of all upper class men for an Iowa team in quite a while, at least since Brunner and Horner's Senior year. We have a PG who will be in his 3rd year starting, a legit 7 foot center starting for his 3rd season, our best PF since Brunner, a 3 pt threat in Ogelsby and a diverse 3 in Uthoff. My expectations are pretty high for this team next season, even if others aren't. Most of that IMO is buyers remorse for how last season finished. I think the schedule is brutal this season, but I expect them to contend for a spot in the dance. If that's the case, it's not a reach to say they are one of the better starting line ups in the last decade.
 
I don't feel like I am reaching at all. From an experience stand point, I can't remember a line up that consisted of all upper class men for an Iowa team in quite a while, at least since Brunner and Horner's Senior year. We have a PG who will be in his 3rd year starting, a legit 7 foot center starting for his 3rd season, our best PF since Brunner, a 3 pt threat in Ogelsby and a diverse 3 in Uthoff. My expectations are pretty high for this team next season, even if others aren't. Most of that IMO is buyers remorse for how last season finished. I think the schedule is brutal this season, but I expect them to contend for a spot in the dance. If that's the case, it's not a reach to say they are one of the better starting line ups in the last decade.
Not sure if I'm 100% with the line up. I also expect a pretty good year. No matter who starts there are a lot of good pieces and a lot of experience on this team. Minutes will spread out much like last season. If our half court game comes around (inside game should be much better), this team will out-achieve last years team.
 
Gesell
Ogelsby
Uthoff
White
Woody

^if it's anything other then that I will be floored... and it's a hell of a line up with TONS of upperclassman and experience IMO. Maybe our strongest starting lineup in a decade.

Not sure it would be the strongest starting lineup in a decade, but it would be the whitest starting lineup since the 1940s.
 
Gesell
Ogelsby
Uthoff
White
Woody

^if it's anything other then that I will be floored... and it's a hell of a line up with TONS of upperclassman and experience IMO. Maybe our strongest starting lineup in a decade.

A PG who can't run P&R or hit a half-court entry pass. A shooting guard who scores 6 points a game. A PF who can't hit a midrange shot or make his own opportunity. A SF who vanishes for large stretches. A C with T-Rex arms and no explosiveness. Heck, a team with no explosiveness.

So, a decade ago, and the next year, there was a team led by three guys who are definite upgrades at their position. After that, included some of the worst stretches in team history. Not hard to be better than the late Alford and Lick period. So the team isn't better than the best teams of the last decade and the others sucked, so...

These are all nice pieces on a team. But there are clear shortcomings. Defensive rotation is one of these issues. Ability to make own offensive opportunities and consistent shooting are others. And, of course, there is the explosiveness issue. The team should play relatively smart and will be able to run fairly well. They also still have depth. All of this should carry them to a good season, but unless some of the players you haven't mentioned- Jok, Dickerson, Uhl, Gabe - make a big impact, the limitations of your group will limit the competitiveness of this team.
 
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A PG who can't run P&R or hit a half-court entry pass. A shooting guard who scores 6 points a game. A PF who can't hit a midrange shot or make his own opportunity. A SF who vanishes for large stretches. A C with T-Rex arms and no explosiveness. Heck, a team with no explosiveness.

So, a decade ago, and the next year, there was a team led by three guys who are definite upgrades at their position. After that, included some of the worst stretches in team history. Not hard to be better than the late Alford and Lick period. So the team isn't better than the best teams of the last decade and the others sucked, so...

These are all nice pieces on a team. But there are clear shortcomings. Defensive rotation is one of these issues. Ability to make own offensive opportunities and consistent shooting are others. And, of course, there is the explosiveness issue. The team should play relatively smart and will be able to run fairly well. They also still have depth. All of this should carry them to a good season, but unless some of the players you haven't mentioned- Jok, Dickerson, Uhl, Gabe - make a big impact, the limitations of your group will limit the competitiveness of this team.

You would be better off trying to re-calculate your 3 year football nonsense than discussing anything about this team. You post was nothing but fail.
 
You would be better off trying to re-calculate your 3 year football nonsense than discussing anything about this team. You post was nothing but fail.

How about elaborating? A good place to start would be going point by point and refute each by making a claim and offering data to support your claim.

Here are my arguments:
1) MG can't run pick and roll or make an entry pass in the half court.
2) Josh scores 6 points a game.
3) White can't hit a midrange jumper or create his own shot
4) Uthoff vanished at times during the season
5) Woody has short arms and is not explosive.

6) Horner, Haluska, and Brunner are upgrades over the current players at their positions.
7) Late Alford and Lick teams sucked (i.e., saying the team is better than those teams isn't saying much)
8) The team suffers in defensive rotation
9) The team should play smart and should be able to run well.
10) They are also still deep.
11) They should have a good season
12) But they will need a significant contribution by the guys you didn't name.

So, what don't you agree with?
 

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