SteveGarvey
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If they go under .500 this year and then again in '14 he'd have about a 50/50 chance of being fired at that point, depending on Barta's courage and the amount of guff received from fans and boosters.
Barta fires warning shot to Ferentz
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If they go under .500 this year and then again in '14 he'd have about a 50/50 chance of being fired at that point, depending on Barta's courage and the amount of guff received from fans and boosters.
SteveGarvey
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I meant "guff" not "quff"-my bad.
Section136
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That might be a bit of a stretch. Fran seems to be working out OK for the basketball program.
Why are people so convinced that Barta would do a terrible job of hiring a football coach. He hired a disaster in Lickliter, but who in the hell hired McCafferey? It seems as though almost everybody considers him a complete idiot for the Lickliter hire, but somehow give him absolutely not credit for Fran. How would people have felt about Bump Elliot 35 years ago? I believe he hired Lauerbur and Commings? I sure as hell wouldn't have wanted him hiring another coach. Pollard for example made some horrible hires(McDermott, Chizek,) and to be honest, fell *** backwards into Paul and Fred. Is it because of the methodical approach he has taken hiring coaches? If that is the case, then you are upset about something that is likely out of his control, blame the administration that you say doesn't care about athletics.
Section136
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And I would throw Barta some credit for realizing the mess Lickliter was after only 3 years and canning him.
hawkeyebob62
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This thread has so much laffy. "Insider" info, extensive knowledge about the U of I administration attitude toward football, the right way to hire a coach, and of course, all that extensive knowledge about "big donors".
Keep it coming. Summer reruns are boring, so I can spend a couple hours tonight reading some more of the gems.
Keep it coming. Summer reruns are boring, so I can spend a couple hours tonight reading some more of the gems.
FreedComanche
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Why do most folks forget that Lickliter had just won national coach of the year right before Barta hired him?
FreedComanche
FreedComanche
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Ok, I certainly could be missing the point. I would think that the big donors would not sign off on such a stupid contact.
FreedComanche
Section136
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This is true. And lets not forget that pretty much all Hawk fans were loving the Lickliter hire at the time it happened and were pretty upset with the Fran hire when it happened.
Shows how much rubes know.
I don't know. I thought it was a good hire at the time, but it was clearly a disaster in hind sight.
PeoriaHWKI
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hawkeyebob62
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My guess is that several big donors wanted it, less were in the "don't do it" category.
Far too many people have no clue about KF "the person". Anyone who has met him or heard him speak in a relaxed setting would understand why donors, both big and not-so-big, like and respect the guy.
I think the contract was basically a reward for him staying around when he could have left, doing the right thing with regard to discipline and not cutting corners, and having the class to keep quiet when blowhards like Fitz, D'Antonio and Bielema, or even Urban Meyer, spout off on any number of things.
He's fought off negative recruiting after things like 2007 sexual assaults and Rhabdo incident, and has always maintained that Iowa City is where he and his family belong. Things like letting Norm Parker retire on his terms (yeah, Spurrier or Bielema or any number of others would have been so understanding--lol), not throwing players OR assistants under the bus (i.e., taking blame or at least not assessing it to others), being emotional at times that truly warrant it (2004 post-PSU or post-2010 Insight Bowl) versus screaming at officials damn near every play, and not having to sit down with the NCAA every third season to explain that staff and players didn't "know" getting free rental cars/shoes/tattoos/etc. was against the rules. He is respectful of fellow coaches, doesn't use innuendo to suggest other schools and coaches are slimy even when they all but display it on national television, and he is generous to a fault in giving credit to others. I doubt anyone could name a time when he has trumpeted his own accomplishments.
treychase made one of his typically inane comments that the administration at U of I "disrespects" football. What he is too dense to understand is that, even if that were true, KF inspires respect across the lines of sports-administration-public face-etc.
In short, he is a class act. Not just a "great guy". Hell, lots of coaches have been "great guys". KF is different. He is actually a class act. Name ten other college football coaches you can give that attribute. Hell, name five.
hawkeyebob62
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He won't. See "Hiring of KF" to see all the stroke Bowlsby had. Same would/will apply again. And believe it or not, Sally Mason will have even LESS stroke than Barta.
Wassabbe
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How can Barta fire warning shots at Ferentz when Ferentz has more power within the AD than Barta?
Has the team struggled lately? Yes, and we are all tired of the same answers from KF. But, he's still a good coach who has done great things at Iowa. He's going nowhere for the forseeable future so fans might as well back him. I personally think we surprise people and win 8 games this year and 10 games next year.
Has the team struggled lately? Yes, and we are all tired of the same answers from KF. But, he's still a good coach who has done great things at Iowa. He's going nowhere for the forseeable future so fans might as well back him. I personally think we surprise people and win 8 games this year and 10 games next year.
You made that pretty clear. Convince me of why. Lickliter? I explained why he seems to get a lot of crap I don't think he deserves. Tell me why I'm wrong.
I agree about the one bad football hire. In fact, half the **** for brains posters on this board seem to think we made that hire 14 years ago.
hawkinn3
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I was talking to my confidential informant (who I cant identify so dont ask) who works in the janitor crew that cleans Kirk's office and bathroom.
Well, it seems they downgraded him to single ply paper. When I asked him if Barta told him to do this to force out Kirk he slighty moved his broom, I think we can all take that as a big YES
Well, it seems they downgraded him to single ply paper. When I asked him if Barta told him to do this to force out Kirk he slighty moved his broom, I think we can all take that as a big YES
HawkPhreek
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I think I still might win the powerball every week too, not sure what has a better chance.
HawkPhreek
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I think its funny that you think Iowa is that far removed from Purdue or Minnesota right now. Three more years of KF on this trend and Iowa will wish to be Purdue or Minnesota. One great hire and Iowa could be competitive again. Purdue went to a bowl game last year and according to Espn out recruited Iowa last year.
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raspberrytea
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Good chance that GB and KF knew the program would be struggling through some tough times and wanted to ensure that KF received a quality shot at restoring the program. This is why he was given the contract extension. KF is a good coach. He has some serious wins under his belt and national pundits have discussed his teams as a national title contenders more than once. I think he deserves a chance to weather the storm, if he doesn't come through then he will part ways with some severance. You seriously can't expect a team to ALWAYS be great. Even Penn State had some 3 and 4 win seasons well into Paterno's tenure and then bounced back with 11 win seasons.
