The "SEC cheats" thing is lame. Christ, the B1G has a school that just went thru the worst scandal in the history of sport, both of its flagship universities are on probation. The SEC has at least been open and honest about their oversigning. Just like honey badger, they don't give a f**k what you think about it. And have used guys like Travis & Finebaum to successfully shape perception. It was brilliant actually.
Bama and LSU are so good because they oversign...
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The "SEC cheats" thing is lame. Christ, the B1G has a school that just went thru the worst scandal in the history of sport, both of its flagship universities are on probation. The SEC has at least been open and honest about their oversigning. Just like honey badger, they don't give a f**k what you think about it. And have used guys like Travis & Finebaum to successfully shape perception. It was brilliant actually.
So where's the problem? Coaches get paid to win, to do so, you need the better players. If you have a new player whose better than one you already have, someone has to go.
clicheusername3
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Because like I said in the other thread, you're just assuming that there is that uncomfortable moment. We don't know if they tell the kids up front and the kid signs anyway. Don't go all poor student-athlete on me this is D1 college football where kids that are going to a BCS conference have multiple offers and options. It's not DIII softball.
Like I said before, this is becoming the most emo butthurt thread I've ever seen on this site, thought I was on CyFan for a minute.
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imported_ankle23
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anyone that says it doesn't is delusional.
This is the brilliance of the whole thing. They say that if you take away oversigning they're taking away opportunities. This is/was the platform that Travis and Finebaum and hell even Gerry DiNardo(BTN) have stood on to this very day. Bear Bryant built his legend from this very practice, so its not new. What is new is the propaganda MACHINE that the SEC fueled. The B1G didn't counter and hence lost the war.
imported_ankle23
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why post that your school is better off without a player?
must be ratings time.
JonDMiller
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JonDMiller
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1. 3 year old's first day of preschool and took her to lunch to hear of her day
2. 1pm conference call with ad vendor
3. 1:30pm radio interview
4. 2:00pm call with advertiser
5. 2:42p just got back on the site.
DuffMan
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whar toilet time?
Chickenlounge
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What do you think "conference call with ad vendor" is?
JonDMiller
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Hey, I am lucky I remembered to each lunch today...doesn't usually happen three of five week days and its not because I am on some starvation diet
just get engrossed with all that I am doing and forget...and love every minute of it
JonDMiller
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LOL! Now that is funny. And doable
However, you agree that the incentive is competitive advantage?
Montanahawk
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It's worth remembering that in that #1 ranked class of 2008, Alabama signed 32 players. At least three are starting for them including Outland Trophy Winner, OC Barrett Jones.
So, no one is saying that all, or most of the SEC/Alabama's success is related to oversigning, but being able to sign more than the 25 has been an advantage for them but more importantly, and more troubling, is that they force kids off of scholarship to fit in more players. The new SEC recruiting rules cap how many you can sign at 25, but what's likely to happen is that this will further incentivize coaches to force kids off the team to make room for the new players.
The SEC enjoys an advantage already in readily available local rich recruiting talent that dwarfs that of the Big Ten, especially the "western" Big Ten states, they don't need another unethical edge of forcing hard working but underachieving players off the roster.
So, no one is saying that all, or most of the SEC/Alabama's success is related to oversigning, but being able to sign more than the 25 has been an advantage for them but more importantly, and more troubling, is that they force kids off of scholarship to fit in more players. The new SEC recruiting rules cap how many you can sign at 25, but what's likely to happen is that this will further incentivize coaches to force kids off the team to make room for the new players.
The SEC enjoys an advantage already in readily available local rich recruiting talent that dwarfs that of the Big Ten, especially the "western" Big Ten states, they don't need another unethical edge of forcing hard working but underachieving players off the roster.
What the hell is oversigning? Nothing says you can't have 100 players on your team, you just can only give 85 of them a scholarship. There's plenty of good schools to go to, if players wanted to go elsewhere they would. They know what they are getting themselves into.
74Hunter
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This is incorrect.
