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All B1G bowl eligible teams were matched up with teams who finished higher in their respective leagues. We won the only even matchups (NW and MSU).

Take K-State and Oklahoma out of the picture and how would the B12 match up with Stanford, South Carolina, and Georgia?
 
Benddontbreak said:
All B1G bowl eligible teams were matched up with teams who finished higher in their respective leagues. We won the only even matchups (NW and MSU).

Take K-State and Oklahoma out of the picture and how would the B12 match up with Stanford, South Carolina, and Georgia?
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Well stated.
 
At least the games were entertaining. There have been way too many Big 10 bowls that turn out to be stinkers.
 
I don't see how you could watch these bowl games and say the Big Ten is terrible. I'm not taking any moral victories but these leagues aren't all that far apart. B12, BIG, PAC, SEC, even ACC are all closer than than all the hype would lead you to believe. Sure there are up years down years, good and bad match ups ect. But year in and year out these conferences are all closer than so much of the media and web experts spew.
 
Ohio State and Penn State were half decent college football teams that couldn't compete in the "post season" due to so-called NCAA sanctions in bowl games.

Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Nebraska all competed into the 4th quarters and lost to higher ranked, rated and predicted competition. What else is new?

Michigan State and North Western pulled out wins.

It's the same old story in college football until the playing field is leveled...

Even NIU is competing against FSU late into the first half.

Until Florida or Alabama comes up and plays Ohio State or Michigan in December or January... the bowl results mean nothing.
 
Hawkfromnorwalk said:
OSU and PSU handicapped this hell out of the B1G this year yet outside of the Purdue curb stomping the conference did fairly well and gave their opponents a game. As usual I'm sure in the offseason it will be a giant pile of hatred for the B1G but it could have been worse.
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That stinking pile of crap aimed at the B1G in the off-season will be well-deserved. The conference stunk this year, and Iowa was near the bottom. Ponder that for the next nine months. But, KF will no doubt get his raise...
 
Hayden Fry, who I admired greatly as a leader, salesman, motivator, change agent and, of course, Iowa's football coach, would call this thread crap. There are no moral victories. When you begin to believe that there are, you've lost.
 
Benddontbreak said:
All B1G bowl eligible teams were matched up with teams who finished higher in their respective leagues. We won the only even matchups (NW and MSU).

Take K-State and Oklahoma out of the picture and how would the B12 match up with Stanford, South Carolina, and Georgia?
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This is hilarious. This is an awesome perspective. There really is no denying that **** fest that was Iowa's season right?
 
Doublewide said:
This is hilarious. This is an awesome perspective. There really is no denying that **** fest that was Iowa's season right?
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Did I mention anything about Iowa?

2 win B1G teams playing 5 win B12 teams. Middle tier B1G teams playing the SEC’s finest. It isn’t perspective, it’s a result of not having your best 2 teams during bowl season in a down year.

Get your punches in now while we have a losing record for the 1st time since the Clinton administration.
 
Benddontbreak said:
Did I mention anything about Iowa?

2 win B1G teams playing 5 win B12 teams. Middle tier B1G teams playing the SEC’s finest. It isn’t perspective, it’s a result of not having your best 2 teams during bowl season in a down year.

Get your punches in now while we have a losing record for the 1st time since the Clinton administration.
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Was Clinton POTUS in 2006?
 
kmajhawk said:
Hayden Fry, who I admired greatly as a leader, salesman, motivator, change agent and, of course, Iowa's football coach, would call this thread crap. There are no moral victories. When you begin to believe that there are, you've lost.
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Thank you kmajhawk. Remember how mad HF got his first year when everyone was so excited about close games? This needs to be X posted to the Hoosier thread. No moral victories....
 
ILHawk said:
Thank you kmajhawk. Remember how mad HF got his first year when everyone was so excited about close games? This needs to be X posted to the Hoosier thread. No moral victories....
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Yep, you don't get named the top 4-8 team in the country by settling for moral victories. Pretty sure we could beat Florida State.
 
cincyhawk said:
Seriously, what has happened to the B1G?

The conference is 1 - 9 in the Rose Bowl. OSU couldn't win NC's even when they were cheating. PSU cover-ups. A head coach leaves a school that he has taken to three straight BCS bowls for a school that hasn't been to BCS bowl in recent memory. Four of the winningest teams in FBS history.

Why is it that B1G teams cannot compete at a high level anymore? The conference is awash in money. The coaches are some of the highest-paid in the country. The states are higher in population than most other states in other conferences, minus Iowa and Nebraska. Are southerners as a population really that much above the norm athletically? How does that explain the success of teams like Oregon, Boise State, and Cal?

I've heard explantions that it is the climate. Then why doesn't Hawaii or Arizona State have the success of Florida or Alabama. And why is Stanford one of the most successfull schools? Ditto Oregon, Boise State. Their climates are bad too.

I have heard explanations that it must be the academic restrictions. Notre Dame is in the BCS Championship. Stanford has won two of three BCS bowl games. Virginia Tech and Georgia Tech have done well recently.

Wealthy boosters? Not only are the B1G schools the largest, but they boast industrial, business, and technology giants as alumni.

The talent argument just doesn't float to me. Wrestling and Basketball and Track and Field are highly competitive athletical sports as well. Granted, they don't require as many participants as football, but if the argument is that the other conferences are getting all the top talent because of some factor inherent to the B1G schools, then shouldn't that manifest in Basketball as well - all the top talent would go outside and so the B1G would be just as talent-challenged as they are in Football relative to other conferences.

Is it the women? I highly doubt Alabama women are that much better looking than Iowa or Wisconsin women. Doesn't Playboy still run a girls of the B1G special issue? Someone help me out here, do we still stack up well in the coed dept?

Seriously, why can't the B1G at least compete (.500) in bowl / non-conference games?
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It's no one thing. But all of the things you just mentioned combine to form the problem (save for the girls).

Arizona State and Hawaii have climate in their favor. Oregon doesn't have great climate, but they have Nike funding their program. Iowa does not have a Phil Knight or T Boone Pickens as a booster. Iowa fundraises for years to get the money for practice facilities. Oregon can build virtually anything they want, and do it on a whim.

And the talent argument is very valid. The comparison you make to wrestling and basketball are what don't track here. Wrestling is a niche sport, popular mainly in the midwest. College wrestling is a lot like college hockey in that regard. As for basketball, the Big Ten has Chicago and the state of Indiana in its footprint, and schools like Indiana can reach into Kentucky, too.
 
ILHawk said:
Thank you kmajhawk. Remember how mad HF got his first year when everyone was so excited about close games? This needs to be X posted to the Hoosier thread. No moral victories....
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It never ceases to amaze me how some fans think it matters if they keep this attitude or not.

The TEAM and COACHES should want nothing to do with moral victories. As fans, finding reasons to be positive after a loss is practically part of the job description.
 
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