B1G realignment

Penn State should be kicked to the curb if they refuse to suspend football for at least a season and reject associated B1G revenues.
 
Penn State should be kicked to the curb if they refuse to suspend football for at least a season and reject associated B1G revenues.

Huh? That does nothing except make all 12 schools resentful, PSU for still having to travel, practice, etc., the other 11 for having to play what is, in effect, a meaningless game. PSU will travel with the bare minimum, tons of players, will leave, etc. A win over THAT level of PSU is barely better than a win over a FCS team.

It would also say more about the B1G that the conference is willing to boot one of its higher-profile schools with a pretty rich football tradition.

Either we boot them or we say, "Let it play out in court and with NCAA".
 
Huh? That does nothing except make all 12 schools resentful, PSU for still having to travel, practice, etc., the other 11 for having to play what is, in effect, a meaningless game. PSU will travel with the bare minimum, tons of players, will leave, etc. A win over THAT level of PSU is barely better than a win over a FCS team.

It would also say more about the B1G that the conference is willing to boot one of its higher-profile schools with a pretty rich football tradition.

Either we boot them or we say, "Let it play out in court and with NCAA".

What do you mean THAT level of PSU? I'm saying they don't play at all.
 
One problem with ND: with all the Pedo State references, it would pretty disingenuous to take a school whose whole existence/foundation would be the Catholic Church, which has had a few pedo incidents--not to mention cover-ups--of its own.

I`m not surprised, i used to be catholic. check the blogs called vatileaks.
 
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wow, there is all kinds of ****** going on in this thread. people notre dame being catholic is not going to be a reason they dont get invited to big ten. that's like saying they should avoid any other schools with p because thats only a few letters away from pedophile. Christmas Christ. no matter how crappy. this situation. is psu still will have a following that will bring in enough money to eventually turn this debacle around. there fans aren't just going to swap colors on the fly.
 
Sorry, but the dude has a point. If you are going to throw out PSU because of how they mishandled a serial pedophile case, you don't go looking for the Catholic Church as a replacement. That is unless you want to be the new face of irony.

And before you hammer me, understand I have two cousins that not only were victimized by a Priest, but were also victims of a brutal smear attack by the Diocese and larger church in general.

so was i:mad:
 
Sorry, but the dude has a point. If you are going to throw out PSU because of how they mishandled a serial pedophile case, you don't go looking for the Catholic Church as a replacement. That is unless you want to be the new face of irony.

And before you hammer me, understand I have two cousins that not only were victimized by a Priest, but were also victims of a brutal smear attack by the Diocese and larger church in general.

No, the dude has no point. ND is a catholic institution, the abuse didn't happen there. PSU is a state institution, maybe all state institutions should be scared. Maybe everyone in the Big Ten should be compared to what PSU did. See the stretch?
 
What do you mean THAT level of PSU? I'm saying they don't play at all.

Right, and when they come back, they are little more than a crap team in the conference, with a possibly trashed academic reputation, etc., etc.

In light of what I saw on ESPN Bottom Line ticker--B1G and Pac 12 calling off interconference arrangement--I now question if PSU is the reason.

While I originally thought the "world" should let PSU do their "healing", let the courts/NCAA take their course, etc., I'm now of the belief that the B1G can NOT let PSU remain in the B1G. For everyone that says PSU students, chemistry professors, et. al., are "innocent", so are you, I, and other B1G fans. WE didn't have ANYthing to do with what happened. Why should ALL B1G schools suffer?
 
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wow, there is all kinds of ****** going on in this thread. people notre dame being catholic is not going to be a reason they dont get invited to big ten. that's like saying they should avoid any other schools with p because thats only a few letters away from pedophile. Christmas Christ. no matter how crappy. this situation. is psu still will have a following that will bring in enough money to eventually turn this debacle around. there fans aren't just going to swap colors on the fly.

With the scroll on ESPN that B1G/Pac 12 "series" is called off...I gotta think PSU is the reason. So, they gotta be gone from B1G.

This is the blow-back treychase was talking about. And whether we agree with it or not (i.e., ALL B1G schools being "lumped in" and paying the price), we need to protect IOWA and the B1G.
 
No, the dude has no point. ND is a catholic institution, the abuse didn't happen there. PSU is a state institution, maybe all state institutions should be scared. Maybe everyone in the Big Ten should be compared to what PSU did. See the stretch?

The scandal was CHURCH-WIDE. ND is part of that circle. There is no department or building at ND that you will NOT see "Father" or "Fr." in front of SOME nameplate.

And guess what? With the B1G/Pac 12 series being called off, the comparison/blowback of PSU-via-B1G-and-vice-versa is coming home to roost. They gotta go, and ND is NOT the answer.
 
I in no way believe the PSU situation is the reason the P12/B1G agreement was called off. I heard that thing was dead in the water more than month ago. Some P12 schools were not happy with the thought of having to travel to the Midwest every other year and when the BCS agreement took the turn it did, it was reevaluated as potentially hurting teams' chances of getting into the playoff.

My thoughts about the timing of the announcement is that it was a really bad PR decision. Just like the BTN not covering the Freeh press conference. They may have been trying to bury the story about the agreement going down, or foolishly thought they could change the news cycle with this story. They should have foreseen that the two stories would get linked. But, although Delaney is good with many things, his PR has never been his strong suit.
 
I in no way believe the PSU situation is the reason the P12/B1G agreement was called off. I heard that thing was dead in the water more than month ago. Some P12 schools were not happy with the thought of having to travel to the Midwest every other year and when the BCS agreement took the turn it did, it was reevaluated as potentially hurting teams' chances of getting into the playoff.My thoughts about the timing of the announcement is that it was a really bad PR decision. Just like the BTN not covering the Freeh press conference. They may have been trying to bury the story about the agreement going down, or foolishly thought they could change the news cycle with this story. They should have foreseen that the two stories would get linked. But, although Delaney is good with
many things, his PR has never been
his strong suit
.

You mean you don't like divisions named "legends" and some other non-memorable name?
 
LOL! I live in SEC land during the academic year and P12 land during the summer, so I get to hear other takes on Delaney. He doesn't play as well in other regions.
 

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