B1G Power Rankings for 2/11

[ssckelley]

Do you think the Gophs are in any trouble of missing the Dance?

Not yet, their RPI is still sky high. They would need to lose a number of games in a row down the stretch.

BTW, welcome back!

 

[Section136]

Not yet, their RPI is still sky high. They would need to lose a number of games in a row down the stretch.

BTW, welcome back!

*fist bump*

Thanks brah

 

[ssckelley]

Minnesota isn't that talented. Where does this thought come from? Tubby has consistently recruited 3 star players and Mbakwe isn't the same player he use to be. Minnesota, IMO, won't make the dance. They will lose 11+ Big 10 games

This explains everything about your opinions.

Do yourself a favor and watch a few games. Watching the games offers much more than the stat sheets and recruiting ratings.

 

[Wassabbe]

Williams is an elite "athlete". Mbakwe isn't the same after injury. Hollins is ok. That's 3 guys though, the rest of their team is average at best. They have little good depth

Rodney Williams was a stud recruit, Mbakwe is just not being aggressive.
Hollins can go off at any point in time.
Real issue is depth. Not as good as projected - Welch and Eliason are worse than predicted and taking the RS off that frosh was dumb.

See my post above. 3 players doesn't make a team. Especially when Mbakwe is a shill of himself.

 

[hawkfan33]

Not yet, their RPI is still sky high. They would need to lose a number of games in a row down the stretch.

BTW, welcome back!

Not just their RPI, all their computer rankings are still way up there. They're top 20, top 15 in Sagarin, and KenPom too. I think Minnesota is in as long as they take two of three from Nebraska, Penn St and Purdue. They might even get in at 6-12 in the B10.

 

[storminspank]

See my post above. 3 players doesn't make a team. Especially when Mbakwe is a shill of himself.

Ohio State and Indiana would disagree.
Indiana's 3 obviously are level up from MN, but the point remains.

OSU's talent isn't that much better than MN.

 

[Wassabbe]

This explains everything about your opinions.

Do yourself a favor and watch a few games. Watching the games offers much more than the stat sheets and recruiting ratings.

I'll do myself a favor and do that. Oh wait, I have. I've also been around college basketball for years. Minnesota right now is a middle of the pack Big 10 team in terms of talent....at best. They have no depth. Who does MN have more talent than? Not Indiana, Mich, MSU, OSU, Illinois, Wisconsin, or Iowa even. This talk of them being really talented and Tubby not coaching them up is simply false. They don't have great talent. They don't have depth. They are right where they should be in the Big 10 standings.

 

[Wassabbe]

Ohio State and Indiana would disagree.
Indiana's 3 obviously are level up from MN, but the point remains.

OSU's talent isn't that much better than MN.

It absolutely is. The reason? Minnesota doesn't have anybody in Deshaun Thomas league. The difference between Thomas and anyone on Minnesota's roster is night and day.

Plus 1-8 Ohio State is much more talented than Minnesota. MUCH more.

 

[ILHawk]

Problem with Minnesota and Illinois is the same thing.
Athletes, potential, talent - just do not perform consistently in games.

Players go absent too often.

The # 3 and #7 RPI SOS may have something to do with it.

 

[storminspank]

It absolutely is. The reason? Minnesota doesn't have anybody in Deshaun Thomas league. The difference between Thomas and anyone on Minnesota's roster is night and day.

Plus 1-8 Ohio State is much more talented than Minnesota. MUCH more.

But we aren't talking 1-8 though, I thought we were talking 1-3.
In that case, MN's 1-3 are close to OSU's 1-3.

 

[Wassabbe]

But we aren't talking 1-8 though, I thought we were talking 1-3.
In that case, MN's 1-3 are close to OSU's 1-3.

No they aren't. Not close. Not in the slightest. Deshaun Thomas is so far ahead of anyone on Minnesota's roster it's not even worth discussing.

And you are going off on what I didn't say. I said they don't have depth. Which you agree. Sure 3 guys can make a team, if they are elite. But Minnesota's aren't elite. They are average.

 

[WindsorHawk]

Why would any Hawk fan hate Bo Ryan? We are 3-1 the past 2 seasons and Wisconsin was fortunate to get the 1. The Kohl Center is becoming home away from home. I don't understand why the rest of the conference doesn't win there.

 

[WindsorHawk]

Let us not forget that Williams did not play in the close home loss to Illinois...1 of many reasons that our game with Illinois isn't keeping me awake at night.

There's no "only" reason to hate Bo. He's a deplorable character and an odious personality. He was an *** regarding Uthoff's transfer. His team always plays a style that no one likes to watch, with slow offense and hand-checking, flopping defense. His behavior on the sideline is worse than Calipari's. Nobody is jealous of him, nobody hates him simply because he wins, and I don't think anyone hates him only because he is at Wisconsin.

Rodney Williams was a stud recruit, Mbakwe is just not being aggressive.
Hollins can go off at any point in time.
Real issue is depth. Not as good as projected - Welch and Eliason are worse than predicted and taking the RS off that frosh was dumb.

 

[WindsorHawk]

My thoughts on MN are the same as IL. They better get to 8-10 if they don't want to worry about their fate.

There's no "only" reason to hate Bo. He's a deplorable character and an odious personality. He was an *** regarding Uthoff's transfer. His team always plays a style that no one likes to watch, with slow offense and hand-checking, flopping defense. His behavior on the sideline is worse than Calipari's. Nobody is jealous of him, nobody hates him simply because he wins, and I don't think anyone hates him only because he is at Wisconsin.

Not just their RPI, all their computer rankings are still way up there. They're top 20, top 15 in Sagarin, and KenPom too. I think Minnesota is in as long as they take two of three from Nebraska, Penn St and Purdue. They might even get in at 6-12 in the B10.

 

[activebadger]

I don't hate coach Ryan. I dislike him. The only thing I admire about him is his consistent success. So you are off the mark

The reason I dislike him is his hypocrisy related to Brust and Uthoff, and how he acted like a total arse last spring on mike and mike and elsewhere, as if he had just been the victim of something unique or that he'd never approached such waters himself in the past. He knows how things happen

I am sure when Brust contacted Wisconsin (or am agent thereof) said contact referred them to the NCAA handbook and told them they can't talk to them

I fail to see this huge "hypocrisy" that you speak of? Honestly I could really care less so I don't even know why I'm bothering to type this out. Brust never was enrolled or played one second or practiced for one second at Iowa. Brust didn't commit to Fran, he committed to Lickliter. Uthoff committed to Bo and took up a scholarship for a full season at Wisconsin. If we already hadn't had Uthoff committed we would have offered Aaron White as he'd camped at Wisconsin for several summers. Brust didn't occupy anyone on Iowa's scholarship for a year. What if Brust had taken a scholly up decided to transfer to Wisconsin and that meant you never would have had Marble? That's a whole lot different.

Besides it doesn't even freaking matter. We are 8-3 in the hunt for a championship and even if we never had Ben Brust at all, Bo would be winning with some other guy no one in the nation had ever heard of that Bo had coached up. Bo wins, it doesn't matter who is on the roster.

I'm going to put a big red bow on that situation and let you guys have fun with it. Bo and Wisconsin have clearly moved on and are moving on to the NCAA tournament......again.

 

[activebadger]

You are crazy if you don't think Minnesota and Illinois have a wealth of talent. They just haven't been coached well. Illinois appears to be turning it around. We will see if Minny can do the same.

 

[storminspank]

You are crazy if you don't think Minnesota and Illinois have a wealth of talent. They just haven't been coached well. Illinois appears to be turning it around. We will see if Minny can do the same.

Tubby's postgame was pretty telling. He doesn't understand why they can't win late games, thinks it's a psychology issue.
He might need to look in the mirror.

 

[ssckelley]

Tubby's postgame was pretty telling. He doesn't understand why they can't win late games, thinks it's a psychology issue.
He might need to look in the mirror.

That is not a good sign when the coach suggests they need a shrink.

 

[hawkfan33]

I fail to see this huge "hypocrisy" that you speak of? Honestly I could really care less so I don't even know why I'm bothering to type this out. Brust never was enrolled or played one second or practiced for one second at Iowa. Brust didn't commit to Fran, he committed to Lickliter. Uthoff committed to Bo and took up a scholarship for a full season at Wisconsin. If we already hadn't had Uthoff committed we would have offered Aaron White as he'd camped at Wisconsin for several summers. Brust didn't occupy anyone on Iowa's scholarship for a year. What if Brust had taken a scholly up decided to transfer to Wisconsin and that meant you never would have had Marble? That's a whole lot different.

Besides it doesn't even freaking matter. We are 8-3 in the hunt for a championship and even if we never had Ben Brust at all, Bo would be winning with some other guy no one in the nation had ever heard of that Bo had coached up. Bo wins, it doesn't matter who is on the roster.

I'm going to put a big red bow on that situation and let you guys have fun with it. Bo and Wisconsin have clearly moved on and are moving on to the NCAA tournament......again.

This is extremely obvious.

 

[tm3308]

It absolutely is. The reason? Minnesota doesn't have anybody in Deshaun Thomas league. The difference between Thomas and anyone on Minnesota's roster is night and day.

Plus 1-8 Ohio State is much more talented than Minnesota. MUCH more.

Ohio State has nothing special offensively outside of Thomas. Nothing. And Craft is an overrated defender, IMO. Anybody can look good when they're allowed to hand check and ride the **** out of their man. He's gone on record as saying he fouls on every play because he knows it will only get called occasionally.

I'd take Thomas over anybody Minnesota has. But I'd take Minnesota's best three over Ohio State's best three, because OSU has nothing after Thomas.