B10 made a mistake not going after Pitt or Mizzou

[edr247]

I don't know about mistake, but I'm surprised we haven't gone after Mizzou. I guess we will only add more schools if we can be guaranteed Notre Dame. Maybe they're scared that if they add Mizzou, and don't land ND, they'll be stuck at 13. Then maybe they have to pick up a less desirable school, and then are back to trying to land ND for #15.

Of course, this is the conference that sat at 11 members for what...nearly a decade?

 

[ICHawk24]

And every single one of those games is better for the bten than not being on tv at all.

Adding Pitt will NOT increase B10 television exposure.

 

[ICHawk24]

I don't know about mistake, but I'm surprised we haven't gone after Mizzou. I guess we will only add more schools if we can be guaranteed Notre Dame. Maybe they're scared that if they add Mizzou, and don't land ND, they'll be stuck at 13. Then maybe they have to pick up a less desirable school, and then are back to trying to land ND for #15.

Of course, this is the conference that sat at 11 members for what...nearly a decade?

Go read my previous post about scheduling 13 being MUCH more difficult than scheduling 11.

 

[edr247]

Go read my previous post about scheduling 13 being MUCH more difficult than scheduling 11.

You think the Big Ten cares? The Big Ten don't give a **** about scheduling difficulties. If it means that Iowa and Wisconsin don't play for 10 years, so be it! But damn it, we're going to make us some ******* TV money! WOOOO! Big Ten, *******!!!

 

[ICHawk24]

You think the Big Ten cares? The Big Ten don't give a **** about scheduling difficulties. If it means that Iowa and Wisconsin don't play for 10 years, so be it! But damn it, we're going to make us some ******* TV money! WOOOO! Big Ten, *******!!!

How about Wisky plays more conference games in a season than Iowa? How about that?

Or maybe Iowa has to play Northwestern twice in the same season?

One of those scenarios would be required with 13 teams.

 

[Cover3]

On the scheduling point alone: The MAC has 13 teams for football, and they make an 8-game slate work with two divisions and a championship game. It looks like they displace some conference games into non-con season and vice-versa, but we had Ark. State between PSU and Mich. in '09. Also, it seems they have a free-for-all schedule as if there are no divisions. That would bring back the old Big Ten tiebreaker system for each division, I'm guessing, but that's hardly the end of the world.

***BTW: I don't really have an opinion on whether or not the B1G should expand. I like 12, but 13 has been made to work. Even 16 wouldn't be the apocalypse, but I like the argument made earlier inquiring about how excited people would be for the Hawks if 8th place was a middle-of-the-pack finish.***

 

[DuffMan]

Adding Pitt will NOT increase B10 television exposure.

Pitt V Penn State and Pitt V Ohio State would both be major TV draws. Pitt v ND would be a national game.

 

[ssckelley]

How about Wisky plays more conference games in a season than Iowa? How about that?

Or maybe Iowa has to play Northwestern twice in the same season?

One of those scenarios would be required with 13 teams.

No it would not. Some of the teams in the division with 7 would play 5 within their own division and 3 from the other division with the rest playing 6 and 2. The division with 6 teams would play each of their division opponents and 3 from the other division.

The MAC has 13 teams and no one plays each other twice or additional conference games.

 

[DwayneTwill]

No it would not. Some of the teams in the division with 7 would play 5 within their own division and 3 from the other division with the rest playing 6 and 2. The division with 6 teams would play each of their division opponents and 3 from the other division.

That's a sloppy fricking mess.

 

[ICHawk24]

No it would not. Some of the teams in the division with 7 would play 5 within their own division and 3 from the other division with the rest playing 6 and 2. The division with 6 teams would play each of their division opponents and 3 from the other division.

The MAC has 13 teams and no one plays each other twice or additional conference games.

The current NCAA rules state that each team needs to play every team within its own division. The MAC has received a waiver, which, as I understand, was given to them because the NCAA wanted to help Temple find a football home. I don't know if such a waiver will be extended to conferences that are causing conference Armageddon.

 

[ICHawk24]

Pitt V Penn State and Pitt V Ohio State would both be major TV draws. Pitt v ND would be a national game.

None would be major draws. Pitt/PSU is ok. Pitt/OSU would be a smaller draw than Iowa/OSU.

But adding Pitt games to the schedule decreases things like PSU/Iowa, PSU/Michigan, etc. So there is a trade off and I think its a loss.

 

[Cover3]

The current NCAA rules state that each team needs to play every team within its own division. The MAC has received a waiver, which, as I understand, was given to them because the NCAA wanted to help Temple find a football home. I don't know if such a waiver will be extended to conferences that are causing conference Armageddon.

Touche. I made the same point earlier about the MAC, but I didn't know about this rule and the MAC's waiver. Nice catch. I agree the NCAA won't feel as charitable about finding ND a "football home."

 

[DuffMan]

None would be major draws. Pitt/PSU is ok. Pitt/OSU would be a smaller draw than Iowa/OSU.

But adding Pitt games to the schedule decreases things like PSU/Iowa, PSU/Michigan, etc. So there is a trade off and I think its a loss.

That's just outright rediculous. In addition to playing on all TV sets in Big10 country Pitt V OSU would likely be the featured game in NY, NJ, and much of New England.

The number of TV sets Pitt/OSU would be on would dwarf what a typical Iowa/OSU matchup gets.

 

[ICHawk24]

That's just outright rediculous. In addition to playing on all TV sets in Big10 country Pitt V OSU would likely be the featured game in NY, NJ, and much of New England.

The number of TV sets Pitt/OSU would be on would dwarf what a typical Iowa/OSU matchup gets.

Right. Pitt is such a huge football draw that they get 51k per game.

 

[DuffMan]

Right. Pitt is such a huge football draw that they get 51k per game.

You are missing the point. It's not about how many fans Pitt draws. It's about how many TV sets the game would be on.

 

[WhitUp]

If B1G wants to go to 16 I think they still could pull either one. Pitt's a reach IMO It's the Big Ten we don't go after techs or city schools.

 

[DuffMan]

If B1G wants to go to 16 I think they still could pull either one. Pitt's a reach IMO It's the Big Ten we don't go after techs or city schools.

LOL. Chicago Metro population 9.8 million. Minneapolis metro population 3.5 Million. Columbus Ohio metro population 2.1 million.

Pittsburgh Metro population 2.3 million.

 

[silvanthalas]

I don't know if such a waiver will be extended to conferences that are causing conference Armageddon.

You're joking, right?

The major conferences are going to do what they want with regards to realignment, and then NCAA is going to rubber-stamp it.

 

[ICHawk24]

You are missing the point. It's not about how many fans Pitt draws. It's about how many TV sets the game would be on.

I think you are mistaken if you believe Pitt's tv draw and in-stadium draw are totally uncorrelated.

 

[ICHawk24]

You're joking, right?

The major conferences are going to do what they want with regards to realignment, and then NCAA is going to rubber-stamp it.

Good luck with that plan.