LawVHawk
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And Miller doesn't do a damn thing about it.
And Miller doesn't do a damn thing about it.
Apparently Baylor and ISU think the 3 point shot is just about the only shot to take
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clicheusername3
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Shocking how basketball works right!
Shocking how basketball works right!
Benddontbreak
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MIke G.
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This. Was very impressed with the continued improvement of Kane. 30 pts, 9 assists, 8 rbs, and 5 rebounds.
This. Was very impressed with the continued improvement of Kane. 30 pts, 9 assists, 8 rbs, and 5 rebounds.
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Which is exactly what Iowa fans heard about last years game in Carver? Are you an idiot?
Which is exactly what Iowa fans heard about last years game in Carver? Are you an idiot?
BLKNGOLD48
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Have to agree with CWood here. Who cares? Hilton is one of the toughest places to play in the country.
Have to agree with CWood here. Who cares? Hilton is one of the toughest places to play in the country.
WindsorHawk
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Serious question because I don't know. How many players have left with eligibility remaining (excluding White who went to the NBA) since Fred took over at Iowa State? Will all 8 of those players you listed stay or be allowed to stay all 4 years?
Serious question because I don't know. How many players have left with eligibility remaining (excluding White who went to the NBA) since Fred took over at Iowa State? Will all 8 of those players you listed stay or be allowed to stay all 4 years?
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Serious question.
How many NCAA tournaments did Iowa participate in the last 2 seasons?
2 seniors in this year's rotation, for the record. Ejim and Kane.
Serious question.
How many NCAA tournaments did Iowa participate in the last 2 seasons?
2 seniors in this year's rotation, for the record. Ejim and Kane.
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Who cares?
Who cares?
NEIChawk
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Who cares about the game last night....If Iowa could shoot like that, we'd win a lot more games....They certainly have the talent that can shoot it....hasn't anyone else notice that's how the game is played, and it usually starts w/good guard play....drive and dish....and everyone else just hovers around the arc...ISU has the green light all the time, just like the MSU's, OSU's, Wisconsin's, etc...etc...etc...
Who cares about the game last night....If Iowa could shoot like that, we'd win a lot more games....They certainly have the talent that can shoot it....hasn't anyone else notice that's how the game is played, and it usually starts w/good guard play....drive and dish....and everyone else just hovers around the arc...ISU has the green light all the time, just like the MSU's, OSU's, Wisconsin's, etc...etc...etc...
WindsorHawk
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Iowa State is 12-0 all time against Baylor in Hilton. I'm glad they won...don't like Baylor at all but let's not get carried away. Both of Iowa State's wins against Kenpom top 25 teams have been at Hilton...Iowa is #12 and Michigan is #21. Oklahoma on the road is the next game. They are #57 in Kenpom so it's not what I would call a big win.
Iowa State has a very good team. Iowa State is likely going to end the season with a very good record. However, we may not know if they are a top 10 team rather than more of a number 20 type team until the NCAA Tournament. Their only top 25 Kenpom road games this season are at #10 Oklahoma State and at #14 Kansas. What about Baylor you ask. They are #32 on Kenpom. Kansas State is #42. Texas is #65.
We all know Iowa State has historically been a better home team. They only have 2 true road tests against ranked teams according to Kenpom. Since the NCAA Tournament is not played at Hilton it isn't until then that we'll know for sure. Although getting the road wins at Oklahoma State and/or Kansas will go a long ways in convincing me. Wins at Baylor, Texas, Kansas State and/or Oklahoma will help.
Iowa State is 12-0 all time against Baylor in Hilton. I'm glad they won...don't like Baylor at all but let's not get carried away. Both of Iowa State's wins against Kenpom top 25 teams have been at Hilton...Iowa is #12 and Michigan is #21. Oklahoma on the road is the next game. They are #57 in Kenpom so it's not what I would call a big win.
Iowa State has a very good team. Iowa State is likely going to end the season with a very good record. However, we may not know if they are a top 10 team rather than more of a number 20 type team until the NCAA Tournament. Their only top 25 Kenpom road games this season are at #10 Oklahoma State and at #14 Kansas. What about Baylor you ask. They are #32 on Kenpom. Kansas State is #42. Texas is #65.
We all know Iowa State has historically been a better home team. They only have 2 true road tests against ranked teams according to Kenpom. Since the NCAA Tournament is not played at Hilton it isn't until then that we'll know for sure. Although getting the road wins at Oklahoma State and/or Kansas will go a long ways in convincing me. Wins at Baylor, Texas, Kansas State and/or Oklahoma will help.
talkinhawks
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Good points! ISU's schedule looks ok SOS wise but their 3 toughest games have been at home. BYU is their best road win and that doesn't look as good as it once did. BYU is coming off losses to Loyola and Pepperdine, so BYU is not impressive.
They still have a very good team though and when shooting well can beat anyone. A team like Ohio St would be tough for ISU because of the way they defend he perimeter yet still have some inside presence.
Good points! ISU's schedule looks ok SOS wise but their 3 toughest games have been at home. BYU is their best road win and that doesn't look as good as it once did. BYU is coming off losses to Loyola and Pepperdine, so BYU is not impressive.
They still have a very good team though and when shooting well can beat anyone. A team like Ohio St would be tough for ISU because of the way they defend he perimeter yet still have some inside presence.
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There are seven good teams in the big 12 and Iowa State will play them all on the road. The odds of winning on the road between the #50 and #70 team are so similar it's almost negligible. 50 is an arbitrary line drawn to make Iowa State's sched look bad when it's not.
How Iowa State does in the tourney won't tell me too much honestly. Iowa State lost to Hampton in 2001 and that didn't make that team frauds or anything, it happens. Teams can lose in 1 game scenarios.
There are seven good teams in the big 12 and Iowa State will play them all on the road. The odds of winning on the road between the #50 and #70 team are so similar it's almost negligible. 50 is an arbitrary line drawn to make Iowa State's sched look bad when it's not.
How Iowa State does in the tourney won't tell me too much honestly. Iowa State lost to Hampton in 2001 and that didn't make that team frauds or anything, it happens. Teams can lose in 1 game scenarios.
Cyclones17
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It wasn't to tough last year even without Babb. Iowa State still was able to get its points against OSU in what was pretty close to what you could call a road game.
Teams that D up really well don't worry me with Iowa State. Hoiberg finds holes and the team always gets their points. What worries me is teams like Iowa. Teams that get up and down the court quick and can score with ISU. Those teams will give Iowa State more of a fit as we saw when Iowa played them.
It wasn't to tough last year even without Babb. Iowa State still was able to get its points against OSU in what was pretty close to what you could call a road game.
Teams that D up really well don't worry me with Iowa State. Hoiberg finds holes and the team always gets their points. What worries me is teams like Iowa. Teams that get up and down the court quick and can score with ISU. Those teams will give Iowa State more of a fit as we saw when Iowa played them.
sioux34
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Because i only enjoy the clowns sucking.
Because i only enjoy the clowns sucking.
hawkforlife9
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I honestly am surprised by ISU guard play. I didn't see that coming. Lots of assists and very few turnovers, plus they hit key free throws. I thought that would be the area that we would excel at, I envisoned Gessel to be one of those kids with ice water in his viens shooting 90% FTs with games on the line. Turns out he's the last person you want on the line at the end of a game. But at least we can say we recruited him as a freshman!!!!
I honestly am surprised by ISU guard play. I didn't see that coming. Lots of assists and very few turnovers, plus they hit key free throws. I thought that would be the area that we would excel at, I envisoned Gessel to be one of those kids with ice water in his viens shooting 90% FTs with games on the line. Turns out he's the last person you want on the line at the end of a game. But at least we can say we recruited him as a freshman!!!!
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Winning on the road is very difficult, and if your conference is worth anything, even some of the best teams are probably going to hover around or a little above .500 when it comes to a road record in conference.
ISU has shown they can play very well on the road, last year there problem was not unlike Iowa's they spit the bit against KU, OSU, Texas on the road, they had leads only to have last second shots cost them. I am guessing that ISU will lose 4 or 5 on the road this year, and it could start this weekend at OU.
Last time I checked the NCAA tourney is played on a psuedo neutral site. Both Iowa and ISU have shown they play pretty well at neutral sites. While you say it is not played at Hilton, or Carver for that matter, you cannot say its a true road game either. And if either or both were to get a high seed, there is a good chance they might get to play closer to home. And I think that is more possible these days with pod system, ISU & Iowa could be in different regions, still play close to home. Which probably means it would be more like a home than a road game for both schools given a strong fan following.
Also KenPom is not the be all end all when it comes to information. You honestly think Louisville is the number 3 team, Creighton #9, Gonazaga #20? Its a good system, but it has its flaws too.
Winning on the road is very difficult, and if your conference is worth anything, even some of the best teams are probably going to hover around or a little above .500 when it comes to a road record in conference.
ISU has shown they can play very well on the road, last year there problem was not unlike Iowa's they spit the bit against KU, OSU, Texas on the road, they had leads only to have last second shots cost them. I am guessing that ISU will lose 4 or 5 on the road this year, and it could start this weekend at OU.
Last time I checked the NCAA tourney is played on a psuedo neutral site. Both Iowa and ISU have shown they play pretty well at neutral sites. While you say it is not played at Hilton, or Carver for that matter, you cannot say its a true road game either. And if either or both were to get a high seed, there is a good chance they might get to play closer to home. And I think that is more possible these days with pod system, ISU & Iowa could be in different regions, still play close to home. Which probably means it would be more like a home than a road game for both schools given a strong fan following.
Also KenPom is not the be all end all when it comes to information. You honestly think Louisville is the number 3 team, Creighton #9, Gonazaga #20? Its a good system, but it has its flaws too.
nationalchamps
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Baylor's gameplan was horrible and Scott Drew should be questioned by the Baylor faithful. Can't get in a 3-pt shooting contest with teh clowns - they will own you. Why they didn't bang it down low the whole game is mind boggling.
Baylor's gameplan was horrible and Scott Drew should be questioned by the Baylor faithful. Can't get in a 3-pt shooting contest with teh clowns - they will own you. Why they didn't bang it down low the whole game is mind boggling.
