Pooker
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Just this past weekend in Iowa City.
AAU title game shut down after official leaves the floor (with video) | TheGazette
AAU title game shut down after official leaves the floor (with video) | TheGazette
Anyone ever heard of this before -- Ref Quits During Game
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OnLookin08
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IDK, if the kids can't control themselves enough to play the game and forget the BS I say kudos to the guy for ending it. Of course the coaches wanted to play the game, that's why they are there. And the refs job is to control it and his judgement said the best way to do it was to end it. Good for him. And I am saying this as a coach and very competitive person myself.
BigD
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I am with onlook on this one. Another thing that should have happened is the coaches should have benched the players who were causing the problem. I've officiated a few games in my younger days and I would have stopped the game and called the coaches and players together and gave them one warning that if the trash talking and pushing and shoving doesn't stop from this point then the game will be called. I don't know if that happened in this case or not. Even so I am not faulting the official as this falls squarely on the players and coaches.
dmShortSaledude
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I can't blame the ref. Maybe they should be allowed to flog the players? That'll learn them kids...
That Wyatt is a player. He is probably due for a serious growth spurt, don't you think?
That Wyatt is a player. He is probably due for a serious growth spurt, don't you think?
jacknicholson
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Bobby Knight is a famous flogger.
DesertHawk2010
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If the scuffle was all that happened that is pathetic. I really hope there was more that didn't get caught on tape for the refs sake. Why didn't the ref eject a player or 2 and warn a few others. That should slow down the players trash talking and pushing don't you think? If it was truly out of control where a fight could break out, I have no problem with what the ref did, I just find it hard to believe it was to that point.
I have refereed soccer. I know that if you don't put a quick stop to the trash talk, it is your fault. I have stopped games right off the bat and told teams that it wasn't going to happen on MY field and then carded players who kept doing it. I also warn parents and coaches who get out of hand. If you deliver the message with resolution and with the argument that you want a good game for the kids, people have a tendency to listen.
From what it said they have given out a few T's already.....
lightning1
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I think it is hilarious! The ref is right. He shouldnt have to teach these kids simple sportsmanship. Thats up to the parents first and theie coaches, second. Let them go home with nothing to show for it.
Anyone care to guess whether or not their coaches took the 4 hr bus ride to explain a few sportsmanship manners?
I'm guessing NOT!
Anyone care to guess whether or not their coaches took the 4 hr bus ride to explain a few sportsmanship manners?
I'm guessing NOT!
DexterMorgan
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Happened in a men's league soccer game I played in last year. Was pretty funny, the ref was completely in over his head. I had just gotten red carded about 5 minutes prior.
hawkdrummer1
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1. The ref needs to take control. If he has to call a TO and take both coaches aside...do it. Tell em to clean it up or guys are getting tossed. Then toss em if it continues.
2. If the way the coach in red reacts is any indication, you can see where the attitude comes from. The coaches need to set the tone for their players and demand sportsmanship.
3. The ship has already sailed on trash-talking. Way too much of this goes on and is not only tolerated...it's validated as "cool" or tough...by way too many folks. This is the inevitable outcome.
2. If the way the coach in red reacts is any indication, you can see where the attitude comes from. The coaches need to set the tone for their players and demand sportsmanship.
3. The ship has already sailed on trash-talking. Way too much of this goes on and is not only tolerated...it's validated as "cool" or tough...by way too many folks. This is the inevitable outcome.
sioux34
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This happened in one of my daughters middle school games. One of the refs didn't show up, so one ref was calling the game buy himself. Early in the second half, he blew up. He went storming off the court. He left the gym, only to come back a few minutes later to berate parents in the crowd. It was a very strange event. One of the team managers of course video taped it with his phone and posted it to utube.
No doubt. It also has affected the game. To many guys walking the ball up court jabbing at each other instead of running plays and D'ing up.
Section136
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Paging Duffman.
DuffMan
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I thought it was hilarious, and I think it serves both teams and coaches right. The single biggest problem in AAU ball is unqualified coaches. In HS the coaches have some accountability in the form of the administration from the school as well as the sanctioning bodies. There are things in place to ensure that in addition to producing basketball players they also produce solid citizens. There is none of that in AAU ball. Many coaches act like NBA coaches and often the parents are absent or provide no leadership either. As a result these kids often get out of control.
Were there things that could have been done from the officiating side to get things under control? Probably, but at the same time is that really his job? He’s there to officiate a basketball game not baby sit. If the coaches from these two respective teams were unable to field teams capable of controlling themselves I think the official did the right thing.
There are two telling things about that story. The first is the video of the coach in the red yelling at the official after he walked off. The second were there comments which placed all the blame at the feet of the officials for not “calling certain things the right way”. The two people in the best position to control the players of the two teams don’t wear stripes, they sit on the bench. Their comments pretty much demonstrate they are not capable or are not willing to do that.
I’ve got news for you coaches, if you are not capable of fielding a team that treats the game, the other team, and the officials with respect than you are not worth my time and effort as an official.
Were there things that could have been done from the officiating side to get things under control? Probably, but at the same time is that really his job? He’s there to officiate a basketball game not baby sit. If the coaches from these two respective teams were unable to field teams capable of controlling themselves I think the official did the right thing.
There are two telling things about that story. The first is the video of the coach in the red yelling at the official after he walked off. The second were there comments which placed all the blame at the feet of the officials for not “calling certain things the right way”. The two people in the best position to control the players of the two teams don’t wear stripes, they sit on the bench. Their comments pretty much demonstrate they are not capable or are not willing to do that.
I’ve got news for you coaches, if you are not capable of fielding a team that treats the game, the other team, and the officials with respect than you are not worth my time and effort as an official.
Bubbrub
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Love this reply. I can't stand trash-talking and show-boating, in either basketball or football, but when I see it taking place in youth athletics, that really chaps my hide.
hawkIhoops
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The NBA's influence on basketball from tatts to trash talking is pathetic.
Why should a referee need a riot shield and tear gas to officiate a game? Really solid way to represent AAU athletics by both coaches. Another example of why AAU hoops is out of control. After two T's on players or coaches, automatic L for the offending team. Trash talking should = a technical, period. Props to the ref for walking off.
Why should a referee need a riot shield and tear gas to officiate a game? Really solid way to represent AAU athletics by both coaches. Another example of why AAU hoops is out of control. After two T's on players or coaches, automatic L for the offending team. Trash talking should = a technical, period. Props to the ref for walking off.
