Anyone ever heard of this before -- Ref Quits During Game

[94HawkMA]

I thought it was hilarious, and I think it serves both teams and coaches right. The single biggest problem in AAU ball is unqualified coaches. In HS the coaches have some accountability in the form of the administration from the school as well as the sanctioning bodies. There are things in place to ensure that in addition to producing basketball players they also produce solid citizens. There is none of that in AAU ball. Many coaches act like NBA coaches and often the parents are absent or provide no leadership either. As a result these kids often get out of control.

Were there things that could have been done from the officiating side to get things under control? Probably, but at the same time is that really his job? He’s there to officiate a basketball game not baby sit. If the coaches from these two respective teams were unable to field teams capable of controlling themselves I think the official did the right thing.

There are two telling things about that story. The first is the video of the coach in the red yelling at the official after he walked off. The second were there comments which placed all the blame at the feet of the officials for not “calling certain things the right way”. The two people in the best position to control the players of the two teams don’t wear stripes, they sit on the bench. Their comments pretty much demonstrate they are not capable or are not willing to do that.

I’ve got news for you coaches, if you are not capable of fielding a team that treats the game, the other team, and the officials with respect than you are not worth my time and effort as an official.

This is scary, but Duff, you are 100% correct!

 

[SirJamaLot]

I'm pretty sure there is enough blame for everyone involved.

1. The ref probably reffed all day( $25 a game or less) and was tired and crabby by the last game, you get what you pay for

2. The coaches obviously did not control their teams, aau is not about getting better but about getting exposed, ask most college coaches and they will tell you it takes at least a yr to break their bad habits and teach them 2 new concepts, share the ball and defense

3. the tournament directors could care less about trash talking or teaching respect, they want to make some money or get their athletes some exposure

4. The athletes are too young but should show some respect to authority figures regardless of how bad the reffing is, too many of these athletes have had their a$# kissed by everyone and turn into prima donnas, and worse idiots!

 

[tweeterhawk]

I thought it was hilarious, and I think it serves both teams and coaches right. The single biggest problem in AAU ball is unqualified coaches. In HS the coaches have some accountability in the form of the administration from the school as well as the sanctioning bodies. There are things in place to ensure that in addition to producing basketball players they also produce solid citizens. There is none of that in AAU ball. Many coaches act like NBA coaches and often the parents are absent or provide no leadership either. As a result these kids often get out of control.

Were there things that could have been done from the officiating side to get things under control? Probably, but at the same time is that really his job? He’s there to officiate a basketball game not baby sit. If the coaches from these two respective teams were unable to field teams capable of controlling themselves I think the official did the right thing.

There are two telling things about that story. The first is the video of the coach in the red yelling at the official after he walked off. The second were there comments which placed all the blame at the feet of the officials for not “calling certain things the right way”. The two people in the best position to control the players of the two teams don’t wear stripes, they sit on the bench. Their comments pretty much demonstrate they are not capable or are not willing to do that.

I’ve got news for you coaches, if you are not capable of fielding a team that treats the game, the other team, and the officials with respect than you are not worth my time and effort as an official.

Well said, Duffman. It is the coaches who have ultimate responsibility for controlling their players. Judging by the language and actions exhibited by the coaches in those two clips, not surprising this game got so chippy that the ref decided it should not continue.

Those who would blame the refs are clueless. And Pooker, this ref didn't "quit during the game." He abandoned a game he felt was escalating beyond his and his partner's control.

It happens. Deal.

 

[jacknicholson]

Excellent post, Duffman. The coaches seem to have the same attitude the players have. It seemed that the Wisconsin Force coach and the Iowa Barnstormers coaches were having words at the end of the clip. The referee was restraining the Force coach from getting closer to the Barnstormer coach. Both had hostile attitudes.

One would certainly think the ref could have gained control of the game with a few technicals and ejections before the game got out of control, as many have said.

This could really heat the Hawkeye-Badger rivalry even more if that is even possible.

Very good example displayed by both coaches after the decision to end the game. It would be interesting to see the whole game up to that point to determine how things got out of control.

 

[MisterLucky]

Duffman is right. What would have happened if this would have escalated despite the refs efforts and turned into a brawl?

 

[jacknicholson]

Excellent post, Duffman. The attitude of the coaches after the game says it all. The referee was restraining the Force coach from approaching the Barnstormers coach. No wonder the players have attitude. The fault lies at the feet of the coaches. I would like to see the whole game to see the events leading up to the decision to stop the game. One would certainly think the refs could have stopped the nonsense with technicals and ejections. Eventually they would be down to five eligible players for each team, but that would be ridiculous.

The ego of the coaches says it all. Technicals and ejections might not have put a stop to their macho grandstanding.

Might heat the Hawkeye-Badger contests in the future if that is even possible.

Sorry about the double post. I was attempting to edit punctuation and hit the delete button by mistake. Up pops the twin.

 

[lightning1]

I thought it was hilarious, and I think it serves both teams and coaches right. The single biggest problem in AAU ball is unqualified coaches. In HS the coaches have some accountability in the form of the administration from the school as well as the sanctioning bodies. There are things in place to ensure that in addition to producing basketball players they also produce solid citizens. There is none of that in AAU ball. Many coaches act like NBA coaches and often the parents are absent or provide no leadership either. As a result these kids often get out of control.

Were there things that could have been done from the officiating side to get things under control? Probably, but at the same time is that really his job? He’s there to officiate a basketball game not baby sit. If the coaches from these two respective teams were unable to field teams capable of controlling themselves I think the official did the right thing.

There are two telling things about that story. The first is the video of the coach in the red yelling at the official after he walked off. The second were there comments which placed all the blame at the feet of the officials for not “calling certain things the right wayâ€￾. The two people in the best position to control the players of the two teams don’t wear stripes, they sit on the bench. Their comments pretty much demonstrate they are not capable or are not willing to do that.

I’ve got news for you coaches, if you are not capable of fielding a team that treats the game, the other team, and the officials with respect than you are not worth my time and effort as an official.

No doubt! It starts at home. Then it falls on the coach. Then it falls on whatever governing body appointed to these leagues.
If these kids dont know what is expected of them, by the time they get to these tournaments, its not the referees responsibility.
Maybe these refs should pull both coaches aside, before the game starts, and tell them that the first one of their players that talks trash, gets the head coach ejected from the building.
Then you would see what type of control these coaches have on their players.

 

[ISUhawk]

When we played AAU ball, our coach wouldn't put up with any back talk, trash talk, or fouls that were obviously intended to hurt someone. Along with that, the refs would T up anyone who would try that stuff (would then be benched for rest of day). If the coaches weren't doing anything, I don't blame the ref one bit. He obviously did all he could do up to that point. Good job ref.

 

[GrandpaHawk]

Excellent post, Duffman. The attitude of the coaches after the game says it all. The referee was restraining the Force coach from approaching the Barnstormers coach. No wonder the players have attitude. The fault lies at the feet of the coaches. I would like to see the whole game to see the events leading up to the decision to stop the game. One would certainly think the refs could have stopped the nonsense with technicals and ejections. Eventually they would be down to five eligible players for each team, but that would be ridiculous.

The ego of the coaches says it all. Technicals and ejections might not have put a stop to their macho grandstanding.

Might heat the Hawkeye-Badger contests in the future if that is even possible.

Sorry about the double post. I was attempting to edit punctuation and hit the delete button by mistake. Up pops the twin.

I also agree,blame the coaches for letting it get out of hand.Don't they teach sportsmanship any more.