ThunderHawk
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I tried. Go Pitt.
Anybody calling in Wednesday night?
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You're all talk.
Did anyone see the Saban interview on 60 minutes? He basically stated that he surrounds himself with winners and perfectionists and has zero time for people who just want to skate by. Look at all the high profile assistants he has hired even after being successful.
Who was the great hire in the KF era that makes you warm and fuzzy? He was lucky with finding a guy like NP that never wanted to be a head coach. I believe he is a control freak and ego maniac that can't handle new ideas and people who might take the spotlight off him.
I know I'm considered a bad fan for bashing Ferentz but I really have no idea how any one can defend him since 2005. If the fans wouldn't have went nuts then I truly believe that JC would have still been QB in 2009.
Who was the great hire in the KF era that makes you warm and fuzzy? He was lucky with finding a guy like NP that never wanted to be a head coach. I believe he is a control freak and ego maniac that can't handle new ideas and people who might take the spotlight off him.
I know I'm considered a bad fan for bashing Ferentz but I really have no idea how any one can defend him since 2005. If the fans wouldn't have went nuts then I truly believe that JC would have still been QB in 2009.
His original staff had Bielema on it, IIRC, and he took Wisky to 3 straight Rose Bowls. It also had Joe Philbin on it who is now an NFL head coach.
And yeah, KF made the QB change in 2008 because of fans opinions.
BILLBUCKNER
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Thing is he is saying they've screwed up -- he's saying that there are a whole bunch of issues and that if it was one thing you could fix it. He's saying they aren't playing well enough to win. That's all correct. It's just that 16 years into it, you'd think they'd have figured out how to be ready by the time the season starts instead of 5 games into the season. I wish, after he said the execution and clean some things up thing that once, just once, someone would follow up and ask, "What, specifically, needs to be cleaned up and executed better, coach? What positions need to man up and do their jobs as a unit? What are you going to do to make opponents back out of putting 9 men on the line of scrimmage so that we can run the ball more than three yards at a time? If completing 63% of your passes won't get them to back off the run, what will? What can we do when we check out of bad plays to avoid telegraphing the stretch run to the short side of the field that opposing defences are keying in on?"
Every game counts in college football. And sorry, Kirk, but contrary to your dismissive comment about not winning by enough, margins of victory count in college football too since it is still a poll-based system that gets you into the postseason. Plus, the larger the margin at any point in the game the more insulated you are from those inevitable lapses in execution and great individual efforts you pointed out as having a great impact on a game. Unless you don't care about trying to be the best team in college football. Unless you don't care if you get a good bowl selection that pays more to the university and can help out the budget that is skewed heavily in your favor.
It isn't that I expect Iowa to ever actually win a national championship. I'm in my thirties now and that just doesn't look like it will ever happen. It's that I expect Iowa to try to win a national championship. To try to get to a good bowl game. And to do that you have to win by large margins. People who don't try to be successful rarely are.
HobbieHawk
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Nope. That was Ken O'Keefe what brought you Ricky Stanzi
HobbieHawk
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Of coursee it was also KOK who decided to run a Naked Bootleg in our own End Zone right into an All-American Defensive End
deanvogs
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For those who missed the radio show (that includes me), this is pretty good stuff by Morehouse:
http://thegazette.com/subject/sports/good-timey-radio-hour-20140917
http://thegazette.com/subject/sports/good-timey-radio-hour-20140917
HaydenHawk56
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Sounds like execution.....blah blah blah....execution.....that is what we do...blah blah blah.......
Not trying to be a jerk but I believe most of KFs success was due to BBs recruiting. He should have been promoted to OC and possibly HC in waiting but again KF knows best that KOK was the reason that Iowa was # 8 three years in a row. You will never be able to convince me that KF wanted to give RS a shot. He basically ****** the Pitt game away to give JC every chance to win the job.
BB doesn't count because he is more Iowa than KF will ever be and would probably coach at Iowa for next to nothing but wanted a chance to prove himself. A chance he would have never gotten at Iowa under KF.
I believe KF deserves all the credit for getting Iowa as close as we have seen to the 50s to become an elite program. He has been a good steward for the program and should be on the Iowa MT. Rushmore but he will never take them to the elite program status. Since 2005 his winning percentage is terrible and has more inexcusable big losses than good wins.
I love the Hawks and hope the win every game from here on out but that would just get KF a 10 year extension and a raise. It wouldn't help with the glaring issues that KF and his staff have.
eveningnewsteam
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I think Bielema brought in Brad Banks, Fred Barr, CJ Jones, Colin Cole, Abdul Hodge, Mo Brown. There's more, but that's off the top of my head.
Yes he did. BB recruited FL when he was here.
Stopped reading when you said BB doesn't count.
The cherry picked criteria people use to judge KF just baffles me. Don't say he never made a great hire and then say one doesn't count after I named two that took me about 3 seconds to think of.
lightning1
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That's a very good question and probably one the the most reasonable responses to KF's bull chit, that I've read on this board. Nice job.
I do believe you are correct and I do think there are a lot more. It would be interesting to see the great coaches he brought in since BB. Again, he shouldn't get credit for BB.
I'm lazy but someone could pull up all the top coaches that Saban, Meyer and other top coaches have rolled through their programs in the last 5 years.
When a former star player, Div 1 head coach, Nat Champ coordinator, and someone who has been there(Chuck Long) doesn't understand what his alma mater is trying to do then there is a huge problem.
Again, not calling out your man hood but please name the great coaches that have zero ties to Iowa that he has brought in the last 16 years. If two is your answer then that is just plain sad and you have a disposition that I could only dream of. BB shouldn't count due to the fact that he would have joined the Iowa staff if I was coaching.
Fight on young man and remember just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean they aren't a fan like you.
1- Norm
2- Bielema
3- Philbin
They all count and they are all great coaches.
I never said you aren't a fan, I just stopped reading your other post when you stopped making sense.
eveningnewsteam
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Hell that doesn't even include Ron Aiken. One of the best defensive coaches in the country. He's now at Oregon.
I agree with those three but it has been 16 years. I do believe KFs downfall will be that he hired yes men after his original staff. I doubt you agree but 3 good coaches in 16 years and two of them left over ten years ago isn't good.
At Iowa, it's proven that if you can recruit and coach the kids up then you can win at a high level. The problem is that since BB has left, something has been off.