I called in just to say thanks to Kirk and the kids. I know they work hard because I saw the offseason practice on television and it looked like everyone was working hard. The coaches offices aren't even finished and they are gameplanning from some temp facility. Sometimes the ball just doesn't bounce your way but its important to stay confident and work hard.
Anybody calling in Wednesday night?
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haha, I don't think the bolded is exclusive to Iowa.
You won't find anyone who can win at a high level if they can't reruit well and develop talent.
Since bb left? You mean the guy that completely screwed up the Bob stoops hire? The guy that fired Tom Davis for Steve Alford? The guy that hired Jim zalesky to take over the biggest dynasty in all of sports? Yeah something's definitely off. Lol.
Gotta love our fans.
Gotta love our fans.
DJI9424
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BB = Brett Bielema, not Bob Bowlsby
I have no doubt they are working hard but the question is are they working smart.
Look, as KF mentioned last night none of us are there to see what they are doing in practice and none of us actually know what they are trying to do. I am in 100% agreement with KF on that fact.
THAT SAID.................................
It is also easy for any person to see whatever the hell it is they are trying to do isn't working and based on numbers hasn't worked for the 2+ years that GD has been here. That's the thing that KF can't seem to get through his head.
Look I don't call Oscar Mayer and tell them how they should make their Bologna. But I sure as hell am going to question the end product if when I go to the store the package says Bologna but it looks like chicken ****.
That is the issue.
theobserver
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Excellent observation. The lads are working hard as are the coaches. Had it not been for a few tough breaks last week, this team could easily be 3-0 and still in contention for the playoffs and a shot at the NC. How was Kirk to know that the kicker would miss what would be the game-winning kick as we called timeout but then make it on the second attempt? Unlucky.
SpiderRico
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You do realize KOK was Philbin's (and KFs, for that matter) boss and mentor at Allegheny? You realize that KOK won an NC there and that his teams avg'd 42ppg running a spread before anyone knew what a "spread" was? KOK was a heckuva offensive coach who was neutered by KF.
Ron Aiken found Banks at the juco in Miss. BB did not have anything to do with him. Banks did not come to Iowa until 2001....wasn't Bielma out of Iowa after two years?
Badger fans grew to dislike Beilma even tho he went to three straight rose bowls....seems like he would be a god up there.
And Arkansas fans are not impressed either, but he is going to save Iowa football? No sure thing.
tweeterhawk
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He's a boor and a slob, and I have no idea whether he would be engaged with the community as Kirk and his wife have been. So three minuses there. On the plus side, he wins and doesn't accept the status quo. And I expect he'd regularly beat the Clowns.
eveningnewsteam
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Yeah all Brett did at Wisconsin was WIN, graduate players and keep them out of trouble. Awful guy, it would be disgusting to have such a character leading the Iowa program. Bielema doesnt give 2 ***** what people think, Hes going to do things his way. If you dont like it, GTFO, thats why SOME people in Wisconsin didnt like him. They must not have had to much an issue will selling out CR every Saturday and taking more than 60k fans to the Rose Bowls. What an awful guy and era in Wisconsin football I tell ya. Bielema's problem in Wisconsin is he wasnt Barry Alvarez. Hell 3/4s the fanbase is already all over Gary Anderson not even 2 years in. ******* delusional Wisconsin fans
1977Hawkeye
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I don't doubt that KF wants to win, and the same for the players. I'm sure they work hard.
Yeah, there are going to be close games and sometimes you don't win.. I get that. I'll bust out everyone's favorite quote: That's football. That's true for all sports. Thing is, wouldn't you want to put your team in the best position possible to be able to put some points on the board and build a lead so that you don't continually have to rely on having the ball "bounce your way" the last 2 minutes of every game? There's no rule that says you can't win by 10-20+ points.
Some people just don't get that. Oh, we just got unlucky, etc. etc. That's what we hear after every loss. If you're going to trust to luck all the time, then your luck is going to run out. Let's try putting our foot on our opponent's throat, put them away, and see what happens. Worth a try. Good teams make their own luck. If we have to trust to luck to beat teams like Ball State, ISU, etc. than this programs has bigger problems than a lack of good fortune.
Sure, the most experienced players are typically going to be less mistake prone, hence "safer".. But it gets to a point where I can live with the risk/reward of having some of the younger, more-talented guys on the field provided they aren't totally lost out there and a complete liability, especially when the guys you're playing are average players at best and not capable of making explosive plays that can tilt the game in your favor.
I'm probably forgetting some stuff from the ISU game, but I can only recall one big pass - a 30+ yard pass or so down field to one of our TE's.. In the 2nd quarter IIRC. Other than that, I can't think of much that went for over 10 yards. That isn't going to get it done. You've gotta get some playmakers out there and get some points on the board.
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All true until the last point.
KOK and KF talked about what offense to run and based on where Iowa was located and the type of recruits they were more likely to get. The decided it would be easier to run more of a pro style set then a spread. That wasn't something that was forced down KOK's throat and like it or not was the right decision.
All that said you don't have to run a spread O to score points.
racerhawk
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I live in Madison, and I was surprised to learn that A LOT of Wisky fans didn't like BB. He won games, but they didn't like him. He had a certain reputation in Madison. I'll leave it at that.
racerhawk
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Indiana uses spread formations very successfully. Their defense sucks, but Indiana recruits athletes that can light up the scoreboard. They don't have a ton of talent, though.
I think running the spread actually allows teams with less talent to exploit matchups. NW has beaten Iowa regularly with this formula.
Iowa isn't good enough to beat teams to death with power football. I think we've seen Iowa struggle with MAC teams, FCS teams, MOOU, Indiana, et al enough the last few years to realize that we can't play the way we do and dominate teams like we used to.
This year, we arguably have decent talent. Why are we horrible on offense? One could argue it is because we are horribly predictable. We're trying to impose our will, and getting stuffed. I would actually welcome the spread, or at least some spread formations.
Edit: Maybe the pro sets are fine, but maybe they need to put the "pro" back in the pro set. Pro teams throw downfield a LOT. The one pass to the TE per game ain't getting it done (as the earlier poster mentioned).
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Bret B not Bob Bowlsby. Gotta love fans.
