Any one else think the QB battle should be reopened after today?

g11 said:
Northwestern has plays for both their talented quarterbacks. From what I've seen from Beathard.. I'm not sure the Hawks shouldn't be doing something similar to at least attempt to open up the damn run game.
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I do agree with this. It would keep D honest. We didn't try any runs with the QB and many times they just forgot about him.
 
Urban Meyer almost pulled preseason 1st team all American Braxton Miller late in the first half vs NW according to his interview yesterday. But, at Iowa, Jake Rudock shall never be pulled, even if Iowa loses the rest of their games? This is the feeling I am getting...that somehow putting in Beathard, even just to try to rally for a win, is simply out of the question. Other teams do it all the time...at Iowa, not allowed, as our program is more successful than the rest, I guess. We are not about to stoop to changing qbs simply to win a game...that is beneath us.
 
JHHawk said:
Urban Meyer almost pulled preseason 1st team all American Braxton Miller late in the first half vs NW according to his interview yesterday. But, at Iowa, Jake Rudock shall never be pulled, even if Iowa loses the rest of their games? This is the feeling I am getting...that somehow putting in Beathard, even just to try to rally for a win, is simply out of the question. Other teams do it all the time...at Iowa, not allowed, as our program is more successful than the rest, I guess. We are not about to stoop to changing qbs simply to win a game...that is beneath us.
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There is a big difference in playing Senior QB Guiton who has started and won games with his arm and playing a freshman QB in Beathard against the best defense in the country who is only 1-3 against WMU in garbage time.
 
David79 said:
There is a big difference in playing Senior QB Guiton who has started and won games with his arm and playing a freshman QB in Beathard against the best defense in the country who is only 1-3 against WMU in garbage time.
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THIS.
 
JonDMiller said:
Rudock started slow...just like Drew Tate did just about every single week in 2004 and Ricky Stanzi for his first year and a half. No, I don't think about a change at QB.
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It would be nice to see the back up get a series here and there. You never know. Hell, we might have the next Tom Brady sitting on the bench. Beathard appears to have some pretty good upside. Both qbs are young. Play'em both. It is quite obvious Iowa is going nowhere this year. Let's find out who the players are in game situations.
 
blubberhawk said:
It would be nice to see the back up get a series here and there. You never know. Hell, we might have the next Tom Brady sitting on the bench. Beathard appears to have some pretty good upside. Both qbs are young. Play'em both. It is quite obvious Iowa is going nowhere this year. Let's find out who the players are in game situations.
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Yeah, we totes should have given Jason Manson a few series over Tate when Tate wasn't lighting the world on fire his first month as a starter. Because things worked out so poorly for Iowa by not doing that.

Seriously, why would we change things up under center when the quarterback play has been our primary bright spot?
 
While I agree that Jake has been good, he is rated as the #9 QB in the league, #80 in the country. That is respectable,but does not make him untouchable. So, under your concept, Jake will never be pulled from a game, and Iowa could lose the next 6 without giving CJ a look?
 
JHHawk said:
While I agree that Jake has been good, he is rated as the #9 QB in the league, #80 in the country. That is respectable,but does not make him untouchable. So, under your concept, Jake will never be pulled from a game, and Iowa could lose the next 6 without giving CJ a look?
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If Jake were to continue playing well, yeah. This isn't like last season, when Vandy was setting all kinds of records for lousy play.

If he starts playing poorly, then sure, give Beathard a real look. But that's not the case right now; there's no good reason to pull Rudock. This is nothing more than people wanting to ***** about everything related to the program, whether it warrants it or not, because they're frustrated.
 
Beathard will see some time in the Purdue game. They are horrible. They now have QB Rob Henry switched to Safety bc they are so thin there.
 
QB has been serviceable, not great. I don't see any reason why it should be a closed book on who the QB is.

Iowa seems to be the only school that you can get benched for turnovers but not lack of making plays. I am just tired of watching a team play scared.
 
JHHawk said:
While I agree that Jake has been good, he is rated as the #9 QB in the league, #80 in the country. That is respectable,but does not make him untouchable. So, under your concept, Jake will never be pulled from a game, and Iowa could lose the next 6 without giving CJ a look?
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That's the Iowa (Ferentz) way.
 
HomerChampless said:
Beathard provides more offense. Plain and simple.
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DJL said:
I like Jake, I think he is doing well for the most part, but he does need to work on his deep ball. He missed a wide open Cotton Saturday for what would've been a huge play.
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He was open...He had a step on him, maybe a half step. It was a foot overthrown. We do need to continue to work on the deep throw....for sure. But wide open?
 
David79 said:
There is a big difference in playing Senior QB Guiton who has started and won games with his arm and playing a freshman QB in Beathard against the best defense in the country who is only 1-3 against WMU in garbage time.
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Also...it was because of injury...
 
JonDMiller said:
He doesn't have the strongest arm. But you don't have to to be able to complete successful passes downfield. You need timing. He'll get there.
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I think what fans are afraid of is that Jake is the QB for the balance of this season and for the following 2 seasons, REGARDLESS OF HOW HE PERFORMS. I hope he matures into an All American QB. But...
On the flip side, if he doesn't perform and win football games, I hope other options are considered.

Recent history has showed us that Ferentz is more than willing to flush a season, rather than try something different.
 
blubberhawk said:
I think what fans are afraid of is that Jake is the QB for the balance of this season and for the following 2 seasons, REGARDLESS OF HOW HE PERFORMS. I hope he matures into an All American QB. But...
On the flip side, if he doesn't perform and win football games, I hope other options are considered.

Recent history has showed us that Ferentz is more than willing to flush a season, rather than try something different.
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You're right that people are afraid we're going to see Jake under center no matter what. But this is basically what's being suggested right now:

Rudock is playing pretty well. WHY THE HELL ARE WE NOT BENCHING HIM?!?!?!?!?!

Get concerned about Ferentz's unwillingness to try something different when Rudock's play actually warrants giving someone else a look. For ****'s sake, people.
 
HawkeyeWalker said:
He was open...He had a step on him, maybe a half step. It was a foot overthrown. We do need to continue to work on the deep throw....for sure. But wide open?
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This. There was a big enough window there. But Cotton wasn't wide open. Davis said it perfectly during his presser, regarding Jake's timing on some of his throws. Said he sometimes wants to see more than he needs to see before pulling the trigger. That will get worked out with experience, IMO.
 
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