Another Cool thing about the Nebby Game...

[hawkfaninTX]

It will be great to have a meaningful game year in and year out at the END of the season. No more over-hyped Minnesota game that usually never had anything to lose. All to often our season ended with a string of games like purdue/Indiana/Minny (always). these games were tough to get up for after the gauntlet we just went through.

Think of the tOSU vs UM game, or the PSU vs MSU game. All four traditionally in bowls or have them on the line. just like Iowa vs Nebraska will now EVERY year! If you look at our schedule it begs the question that now Iowa can stay focused on the end result all the way through. just like a dangling carrot. Our toughest game and the game with the most on the line every year will be Nebraska (Bowl / B1G Championship / BCS implications). This is a perfect scenario for Iowa, and the addition of Nebraska may be our ticket to the next level. we now should be the biggest proponent against further expansion, because it may disrupt the current scheduling advantages Iowa has inherited.

 

[DwayneTwill]

What's not cool about it is the word "nebby".

 

[hawkfaninTX]

What's not cool about it is the word "nebby".

duly noted

 

[NewMexHawk]

I enjoyed playing Minnesota at the end of the year for Floyd, the greatest trophy in college football.

Saying that, I also will greatly enjoy playing Nebraska at the end of the year because there will be times when the Division title is on the line. Plus, the Iowa/Nebraska game will greatly overshadow the Iowa/clown game in Iowa...by far. The clowns just dropped another notch to Iowa fans. The clown game means little anymore...the game is just another preseason game and holds little importance.

I have to admit it would be nice if that series were dropped and we played them about twice about every 10 years or less. Course if we drop the series, the clowns would have no rival to play during the season...NONE.

 

[hawkcub42]

I really think the Nebraska game will turn into Minnesota,Wisconsin,ISU, and even Illinois after the first 2 years (once the newness runs out). To where it will be huge to fans in a certain part of the state. To other fans just another game (albeit many times a big one). In eastern Iowa there was not that dismay of Nebraska like western Iowans have before Nebraska joined the Big 10.

 

[ChosenChildren]

I agree with this analysis. The last two years Iowa, for whatever reason, faded a little bit in November (injuries? schedule?), and then seemed to catch their rhythm again in the bowl season. Hopefully this game helps them keep their energy and focus at a high level. I think this will be particularly true during each year when this game is in Iowa City -- what a way to end the year!

I also agree that this rivalry will eclipse Iowa State in importance

 

[PJHawk]

I really think the Nebraska game will turn into Minnesota,Wisconsin,ISU, and even Illinois after the first 2 years...

You're not serious are you? I'm sure no one else shares that opinon.

 

[DeputyHawk]

I just hope we don't play like we usually do when we play Minnesota at the end. If thats the case this series will get ugly fast.

 

[hawkcub42]

You're not serious are you? I'm sure no one else shares that opinon.

Oh I know my opinion is not shared by many right now. Read my newness part of my comment. I see them in year number 3 as being like Wisconsin was. A tough team that some of our state feels it's a bigger game then any other game. I just don't see this as the game that unites our fanbase long term into having that one rival as many do.

 

[HawkPrdatr40]

It will be great to have a meaningful game year in and year out at the END of the season. [/B]No more over-hyped Minnesota game that usually never had anything to lose. All to often our season ended with a string of games like purdue/Indiana/Minny (always). these games were tough to get up for after the gauntlet we just went through.

Seriously??? What the heck. Only in your mind could they be meaningless games and only in your mid did it happened "Always" against those teams you list. I can't recall Iowa ever finishing with Purdue/Indy/Minny in that order. In fact I bet it has happened NEVER!!

Guess in 2009 the last 3 games didn't mean much? An example of where I'm going with this reply.


Snapshot of last 3 games dating back to 2000.

2010
Northwestern
Ohio State
Minnesota

2009
Northwestern- Yep wish it was more meaningful
Ohio State- This game was also meaningless? Interesting!!
Minnesota

2008
Penn State- 24-23 Game. Yep that was meaningless as well
Purdue
Minnesota

2007
Michigan State
Northwestern
Minnesota

2006
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Minnesota

2005
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Minnesota

2004
Purdue
Minnesota
Wisconsin- How much was on the line this night? But your not talking Big Ten Championship if you lose against Purdue and Minnesota in those meaningless games.

2003
Purdue
Minnesota
Wisconsin

2002 Wow glad these games didn't mean much
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Minnesota

2001 9/11 year
Northwestern
Minnesota
Iowa State

2000
Penn State
Northwestern
Minnesota


Is any game versus Wisconsin not meaningful? No doubt Northwestern is meaningless game we own them.


Iowa has and always will play meaningful games year in and year out at the END of the season, adding Nebraska doesn't change that one bit. How you finish any season is meaningful. Just ask the 2009 team.

 

[DwayneTwill]

Iowa finished the season against Western Michigan in 2007, obviously.

 

[hawkfaninTX]

thank you for clarifying and researching the schedule. Since the title included and referenced Nebraska, that should have indicated I was placing the biggest importance on the replacement of the almost worthless Minnesota team on our schedule at the end of the year. did you happen to notice that two of the following three teams purdue/Minnesota/Northwestern were in the last three games of the year of ALL of the seasons you listed? not to bad of a guess with zero research and a shot from the hip. but that wasn't even my main point of the OP

my point is the our big ten slate is usually front heavy with competition. you could say that our schedules were arguably hard and culminate early. now no matter who get's scheduled before the Nebraska game, our season will end and culminate at the same time every year. putting us in a clearer mindset and in a better position than we were before the addition of Nebraska to the B1G.

 

[hawkfaninTX]

It will be great to have a meaningful game year in and year out at the END of the season. No more over-hyped Minnesota game that usually never had anything to lose. All to often our season ended with a string of games like purdue/Indiana/Minny (always). these games were tough to get up for after the gauntlet we just went through.

Think of the tOSU vs UM game, or the PSU vs MSU game. All four traditionally in bowls or have them on the line. just like Iowa vs Nebraska will now EVERY year! If you look at our schedule it begs the question that now Iowa can stay focused on the end result all the way through. just like a dangling carrot. Our toughest game and the game with the most on the line every year will be Nebraska (Bowl / B1G Championship / BCS implications). This is a perfect scenario for Iowa, and the addition of Nebraska may be our ticket to the next level. we now should be the biggest proponent against further expansion, because it may disrupt the current scheduling advantages Iowa has inherited.

I see haw that could have been interpreted literally, but I should have chosen better words. I meant teams LIKE the ones I listed, or better paraphrased as mid level big ten teams.

 

[DesMoinesHawki]

I love the thought of playing Nebraska in the last game of the season. This is a natural rivalry, and (right now) the two programs are very even. Yes, the Huskers have the history, but the past is the past. At one time Army, Princeton and Yale were powerhouse programs ... This has the makings for a great rivalry ... One thing I would be curious to know ... do as many native Iowans live in Nebraska as is the case for Nebraskans living in Iowa? Seems like Nebraska fans are all over the DSM metro ... Would be curious if we have as many Iowans who have migrated to the west ...

 

[olddude]

I love the thought of playing Nebraska in the last game of the season. This is a natural rivalry, and (right now) the two programs are very even. Yes, the Huskers have the history, but the past is the past. At one time Army, Princeton and Yale were powerhouse programs ... This has the makings for a great rivalry ... One thing I would be curious to know ... do as many native Iowans live in Nebraska as is the case for Nebraskans living in Iowa? Seems like Nebraska fans are all over the DSM metro ... Would be curious if we have as many Iowans who have migrated to the west ...

I also like that it's the last game. Makes the boys get up at the end, then if they go to Indy, they will have to get up again and then the bowl game. Keeps them focused.
Why would anyone go to NE? I mean if you are heading west, might as well blow thru NE and land somewhere nice.

 

[HawkPrdatr40]

thank you for clarifying and researching the schedule. Since the title included and referenced Nebraska, that should have indicated I was placing the biggest importance on the replacement of the almost worthless Minnesota team on our schedule at the end of the year. did you happen to notice that two of the following three teams purdue/Minnesota/Northwestern were in the last three games of the year of ALL of the seasons you listed? not to bad of a guess with zero research and a shot from the hip. but that wasn't even my main point of the OP

my point is the our big ten slate is usually front heavy with competition. you could say that our schedules were arguably hard and culminate early. now no matter who get's scheduled before the Nebraska game, our season will end and culminate at the same time every year. putting us in a clearer mindset and in a better position than we were before the addition of Nebraska to the B1G.

The point I'm making is that every game is meaningful.

 

[hawkfaninTX]

=HawkPrdatr40;468703]Seriously??? What the heck. Only in your mind could they be meaningless games and only in your mid did it happened "Always" against those teams you list. I can't recall Iowa ever finishing with Purdue/Indy/Minny in that order. In fact I bet it has happened NEVER!!

Guess in 2009 the last 3 games didn't mean much? An example of where I'm going with this reply.


Snapshot of last 3 games dating back to 2000.

2010
Northwestern (5-3) 7-6
Ohio State (7-1) 12-1
Minnesota (2-6) 3-9

2009
Northwestern- (5-3) 8-5
Yep wish it was more meaningful
Ohio State- (7-1) 11-2
This game was also meaningless? Interesting!!
Minnesota- (3-5) 6-7

2008
Penn State- (7-1) 11-2
24-23 Game. Yep that was meaningless as well.
Purdue- (2-6) 4-8
Minnesota- (3-5) 7-6

2007
Northwestern- (3-5) 6-6
Minnesota- (0-8) 1-11
**Western Mich- (N/A) 5-7
^ you had minnesota ending the season here...


2006
Northwestern- (2-6) 4-8
Wisconsin- (7-1) 12-1
Minnesota- (3-5) 6-6

2005
Northwestern- (5-3) 7-5
Wisconsin- (5-3) 10-3
Minnesota- (4-4) 7-5

2004
Purdue- (4-4) 7-5
Minnesota- (3-5) 7-5
Wisconsin- (6-2) 9-3
How much was on the line this night? But your not talking Big Ten Championship if you lose against Purdue and Minnesota in those meaningless games.

2003
Purdue- (6-2) 9-4
Minnesota- (5-3) 7-5
Wisconsin- (4-4) 7-6

2002 Wow glad these games didn't mean much
Wisconsin- (2-6) 8-6
Northwestern (1-7) 3-9
Minnesota- (3-5) 8-5

2001 9/11 year
Northwestern- (2-6) 4-7
Minnesota- (2-6) 4-7
Iowa State- (N/A) 7-5

2000
Penn State- (4-4) 5-7
Northwestern- (6-2) 8-4
Minnesota- (4-4) 6-6

my only point is that for the foreseable future our current scheduling is better than that of what existed prior to the addition of Nebraska. It will also be a critical game in bowl structuring for other big ten teams and not to mention more often than not Nebraska will be competing for a bowl so more than a trophy will be on the line. This added flavor to the newest rival on our schedule only hightens focus and the task at hand, because the biggest challenger is at the end of the season.

I would love to hear you say that in years past you would NOT trade Minnesota with ANYBODY else in the "former" Big Ten as an opponent to finish the season. I've demonstrated my stance and followed your research with even more statistics.

ps: I am currently averaging the opponents W's/L's, and will get you their numbers if you want them...

pps: When something is on the line we tend to play better. When the other team has something on the line (other than Pride) they won't try onside kicks (like in '10), and other wierd sh1t that anyone generally have troubles with.

Respectfully

 

[HawkPrdatr40]

I would love to hear you say that in years past you would NOT trade Minnesota with ANYBODY else in the "former" Big Ten as an opponent to finish the season. I've demonstrated my stance and followed your research with even more statistics.

A wins a win a loss is a loss TX. No matter what you say or what you type that is all that matters to me. 12 regular season games do that to me. All I care about is the overall record, how we get there and when and where we play the game and against who doesn't matter to me.

 

[gohawkz]

I love the thought of playing Nebraska in the last game of the season. This is a natural rivalry, and (right now) the two programs are very even. Yes, the Huskers have the history, but the past is the past. At one time Army, Princeton and Yale were powerhouse programs ... This has the makings for a great rivalry ... One thing I would be curious to know ... do as many native Iowans live in Nebraska as is the case for Nebraskans living in Iowa? Seems like Nebraska fans are all over the DSM metro ... Would be curious if we have as many Iowans who have migrated to the west ...

Why in the heck would an Iowan move to Nebraska???

 

[JHHawk]

Mixed bag for me.
I like the NU game at the end,with the potential for traditional rivalry,and the spotlight on Black Friday,but on the other hand, Minnesota was a rivalry game also,and Iowa had the upper hand. That meant finishing the season with a win,usually,and maybe on a roll...that meant a better bowl game as the bowls like to go with hot teams. Now, with NU, what if Iowa goes on a losing streak like Michigan has going with OSU? Your season ends like crap, fan enthusiasm for bowling is muted,and the Bowl guys probably downgrade the Hawks.

This is more of a high wire act...greater risk,greater reward,I guess. But no matter how good a season we have going,that game will always loom as the one that could ruin it all....I kind of liked knowing that the Gophers were unlikely to snatch a Big Ten title away.