Am I taking this the wrong way? (KF quote)

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IowaHOCKS23

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"Were not a good enough team to overcome penalties"

That really, really rubs me the wrong way. I get that we had a lot of penalties, but it really sounds as though he is blaming the players instead of himself.
 
thetrza said:
Its not his fault the players are making mistakes and throwing interceptions and missing tackles. The players are letting him down this year.
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If you're being serious it may be one of the worst post of the year candidates, strong contender
 
IowaHOCKS23 said:
"Were not a good enough team to overcome penalties"

That really, really rubs me the wrong way. I get that we had a lot of penalties, but it really sounds as though he is blaming the players instead of himself.
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we pine for KF to be more transparent. Well there it is. He was being as open and frank as anyone could ever hope.

He isn't one to throw players or staff under the bus. We know that. but that was an honest assessment.
 
Well, who is ultimately responsible for the play on the field? The head coach.

No, KF is not directly responsible for each and every mistake that happens, but if the team is generally undisciplined and lacking in fundamentals, that's a reflection of the coaching staff's ability to coach and teach the game, or lack thereof.

Or, if the players don't have the ability to "execute", then that's a recruiting issue, which also ultimately is on the coaching staff.

No other way to slice it.
 
1977Hawkeye said:
Well, who is ultimately responsible for the play on the field? The head coach.

No, KF is not directly responsible for each and every mistake that happens, but if the team is generally undisciplined and lacking in fundamentals, that's a reflection of the coaching staff's ability to coach and teach the game, or lack thereof.

Or, if the players don't have the ability to "execute", then that's a recruiting issue, which also ultimately is on the coaching staff.

No other way to slice it.
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You are splitting hairs.
 
I think it is obvious what he meant. Of course individual mistakes are not always on the coach.
 
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HawkGold said:
I think it is obvious what he mean. Of course individual mistakes are not always on the coach.
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But too many fans give KF a pass because he isn't the one actually throwing interceptions, or fumbling, or getting called for holding; but he is responsible to make sure those things don't happen. This team is very undisciplined and penalties, and interceptions are symptoms of the cause. 1977 was correctly pointing that out.
 
I think the fans need to look at their own behavior at the game and the distractions they caused for the players and the refs. This game could have gotten out of hand off the field.
 
ArvadaHawk said:
But too many fans give KF a pass because he isn't the one actually throwing interceptions, or fumbling, or getting called for holding; but he is responsible to make sure those things don't happen. This team is very undisciplined and penalties, and interceptions are symptoms of the cause. 1977 was correctly pointing that out.
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I think we are all frustrated.
 
Stanzi said:
To put it mildly...
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At least it's not as bad as in the Land of Lincoln. Rags to Riches to Rages to Riches to Rages to Riches and then totally terrible. Hope Iowa can beat them. KF goes from rags to riches to mediocre to riches to mediocre to riches to mediocre.

I think the biggest thing is that we all wanted Iowa to be relevant and we bit the poison last year. I truly wanted to be wrong about KF. The problems don't seem very fixable.
 
HawkGold said:
At least it's not as bad as in the Land of Lincoln. Rags to Riches to Rages to Riches to Rages to Riches and then totally terrible. Hope Iowa can beat them. KF goes from rags to riches to mediocre to riches to mediocre to riches to mediocre.

I think the biggest thing is that we all wanted Iowa to be relevant and we bit the poison last year. I truly wanted to be wrong about KF. The problems don't seem very fixable.
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I still feel this team can turn the season around, but it must win out, with the exception of UM. That is a tall, tall order and I don't know it can be done without making changes. I don't think our OL can just improve, so some changes are needed here. After almost half the season, they probably are who they are.
 
1977Hawkeye said:
Well, who is ultimately responsible for the play on the field? The head coach.

No, KF is not directly responsible for each and every mistake that happens, but if the team is generally undisciplined and lacking in fundamentals, that's a reflection of the coaching staff's ability to coach and teach the game, or lack thereof.

Or, if the players don't have the ability to "execute", then that's a recruiting issue, which also ultimately is on the coaching staff.

No other way to slice it.
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^^^^^^^^ 100% CORRECT ^^^^^^^^
 
HawkGold said:
At least it's not as bad as in the Land of Lincoln. Rags to Riches to Rages to Riches to Rages to Riches and then totally terrible. Hope Iowa can beat them. KF goes from rags to riches to mediocre to riches to mediocre to riches to mediocre.

I think the biggest thing is that we all wanted Iowa to be relevant and we bit the poison last year. I truly wanted to be wrong about KF. The problems don't seem very fixable.
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Riches??? What are you talking about? Most fans are waking up and realizing that last year was the product of a lame ass schedule and that some of those programs we played were down or having a lots of injuries.

Talk about bad luck for Wisconsin. They were running us over like a semi. If their guard doesn't step on their QB's foot causing a bad hand off their running back walks in for a TD and takes the lead. Our hapless offense hadn't done crap the previous two possessions and there is no way we would have done shit against Wisconsin's defense on our last offensive drive. Game over, Wisconsin wins and that was against a Wisconsin team that was one of the weakest they have had in the last five years.

We beat no one that was good and lost to the stiffest competition of the year up to that point in MSU. Alabama knew what MSU was and showed us just how bad they were. Stanford put an exclamation point on it with a cherry on top.

That's your idea of RICHES??? Many are not buying this bullshit anymore and they are sick of it. Like I said in another post, it's like people are under some kind of mind control similar to what you see with religious cults.
 
BigD said:
Riches??? What are you talking about? Most fans are waking up and realizing that last year was the product of a lame ass schedule and that some of those programs we played were down or having a lots of injuries.

Talk about bad luck for Wisconsin. They were running us over like a semi. If their guard doesn't step on their QB's foot causing a bad hand off their running back walks in for a TD and takes the lead. Our hapless offense hadn't done crap the previous two possessions and there is no way we would have done shit against Wisconsin's defense on our last offensive drive. Game over, Wisconsin wins and that was against a Wisconsin team that was one of the weakest they have had in the last five years.

We beat no one that was good and lost to the stiffest competition of the year up to that point in MSU. Alabama knew what MSU was and showed us just how bad they were. Stanford put an exclamation point on it with a cherry on top.

That's your idea of RICHES??? Many are not buying this bullshit anymore and they are sick of it. Like I said in another post, it's like people are under some kind of mind control similar to what you see with religious cults.
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Whoa....frustration! I felt things were in trouble when Iowa played IU last year. Nebby wasn't a tough win for anyone. MN was a painful win to watch. Illinois was actually almost a good team last year. Which ever team in the west play OSU it will be painful. Wasn't it in 14 when Wisky got trucked?
 
thetrza said:
I think the fans need to look at their own behavior at the game and the distractions they caused for the players and the refs. This game could have gotten out of hand off the field.
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Does anybody know if they were throwing stuff onto the field or were they throwing stuff at the coaches?
 
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