Alford Issues Apology Regarding Pierce

i wish we had actual video of him saying this. i bet his face would look so painful. that's why it's only via press release. there's no way he'd actually say this.
 
MeatMan said:
i wish we had actual video of him saying this. i bet his face would look so painful. that's why it's only via press release. there's no way he'd actually say this.
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The way I envision it is just a few words at a time, then pausing to cover the microphone with his hand and whisper to his attorney, then a few more words, etc., like at a Congressional hearing.
 
JonnyGuido said:
I know. Anyone with half a brain knows. I have no doubt Alfraud has zero remorse for what he did. He is a text book narcissist and only knows how to externalize blame. This statement is soooo obviously a weak attempt to placate the media and make this go away ASAP. The fact that some on this board see it as anything but makes me laugh and cry. Some people are so easily manipulated.
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I don't know that I have seen anyone on here say they think he is honestly sincere about this. But because they cannot get inside his mind they are simply not willing to out and out say he is insincere without at least giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Then there are others like you that have no problem saying that you KNOW what he is thinking. And I am not trying to call the latter group out. I am simply just commenting on the two camps.
 
DP5555 said:
I understand you're being professional here Jon, but come on. The guy issues an apology 2 weeks after being introduced as the head coach at perhaps THE most prestigious basketball school in the country. Do you really think he did it because he felt bad or did he do it because he's under some intense scrutiny at a major college basketball school and it just won't go away until he says his piece?

I think anyone with half a brain knows the answer. The guy is a freakin weasel. Like another poster above said... if he was truly sorry he would be calling the victims and apologizing. He would be calling Harty to ask him for his niece's number so he can reach out to her. Most importantly, he wouldn't make it a point to let the press know that he apologized. What I see here is nothing more than a PR move to try to get people to lay off.

Might as well say "I'm not going to accuse Pierre Pierce of trying to do anything shady with Harty's niece because no sexual assault actually occurred. Maybe he came into her dorm room to ask her if he could borrow some peanut butter". Sometimes ya just need to call a spade a spade. However, I do understand in your line of work you need to be a little more cautious.
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I really get a kick out of you guys. You want to call Alford a liar for this apology, which is your prerogative. He certainly hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt, to say the least. That is just fine. All Jon is doing is keeping his actual opinions to himself and stating that there are a couple of different ways to look at this, based upon things he has seen and experienced in his own life. I don't believe Jon said he believed him. He simply said he won't call him a liar because he can't get inside Alford's mind.

But that isn't good enough for you. If someone isn't willing to pile on you have to call him out. There are plenty of people quoting the Bible on this thread. It is rather ironic that the Christian thing to do would be to give the benefit of the doubt and let the judgement take care of itself. But as someone else here pointed out, people like to take things from the Bible to use them for their own ends by taking them out of context.
 
I still recall reading the article regarding PP in the Iowa City paper while going to school up there. Couldn't believe what I was reading and see the guy around town and how he acted around females just reinforced everything written.

Alford went to bat for a guy who preyed on women if he wants to ask for forgivness for this situation he sure picked a time that makes his apologize seem extremely shady.
 
Thawki said:
I really get a kick out of you guys. You want to call Alford a liar for this apology, which is your prerogative. He certainly hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt, to say the least. That is just fine. All Jon is doing is keeping his actual opinions to himself and stating that there are a couple of different ways to look at this, based upon things he has seen and experienced in his own life. I don't believe Jon said he believed him. He simply said he won't call him a liar because he can't get inside Alford's mind.

But that isn't good enough for you. If someone isn't willing to pile on you have to call him out. There are plenty of people quoting the Bible on this thread. It is rather ironic that the Christian thing to do would be to give the benefit of the doubt and let the judgement take care of itself. But as someone else here pointed out, people like to take things from the Bible to use them for their own ends by taking them out of context.
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Of course I am giving him the benefit of the doubt. But I don't think he's sincere. And with saying that, I can not tell you with one hundred percent certainty that he is or isn't sincere.

If you look at the whole story in context, your brain tells you that he simply is doing this cause he's feeling the heat.

Doesn't help his cause that his actions and attitude have made him so super easy to dislike.

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Too little way too late. However I certainly would appreciate a public apology from Athletes in Action for their role in the matter.
 
Jon is completely off-base on this. This is the problem with the religious reformed sinner who sees everything from the singular perspective of his or her own transgressions. Doubling this for Jon we also get the reformed drinker angle. From these perspectives it is entirely reasonable to have experienced the grace of the forgiveness granted by others and see it within the same narrative of the promise of Christ's forgiveness.

Jon would be better served by looking at this instance through a different lens, such as the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Their standards for judging the honesty of a confession and the remorse of the violator are a much better guideline than some vague reference to personal indiscretions and an expression of gratitude of instances of personal reception of forgiveness.

I pretty much doubt Jon committed a complex abuse of power to further injure a sexual assault victim.
 
woodyk1 said:
Here is Pierce's response to Alford's apology and Harty's article ...

Pierre Pierce responds to Steve Alford’s apology and Pat Harty’s column | CollegeBasketballTalk
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Wow, so no regret from Pierce at all, even over the stuff he was convicted for. Not exactly the tune he was singing at his sentencing in 2005:

Pierre Pierce sentenced to four years in prison - Men's College Basketball - ESPN

"Not a single day goes by that I don't think about how things could have been different," Pierce told the judge. "Truly, deep down in my heart, I am sorry for my actions."

Well, I guess a few days went by.
 
CAARHawk said:
Jon is completely off-base on this. This is the problem with the religious reformed sinner who sees everything from the singular perspective of his or her own transgressions. Doubling this for Jon we also get the reformed drinker angle. From these perspectives it is entirely reasonable to have experienced the grace of the forgiveness granted by others and see it within the same narrative of the promise of Christ's forgiveness.

Jon would be better served by looking at this instance through a different lens, such as the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Their standards for judging the honesty of a confession and the remorse of the violator are a much better guideline than some vague reference to personal indiscretions and an expression of gratitude of instances of personal reception of forgiveness.

I pretty much doubt Jon committed a complex abuse of power to further injure a sexual assault victim.
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Not sure WTH you are trying to say but my only understanding of South Africa is that rape is the norm, understanding and justice...not so much.
 
Thawki said:
I really get a kick out of you guys. You want to call Alford a liar for this apology, which is your prerogative. He certainly hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt, to say the least. That is just fine. All Jon is doing is keeping his actual opinions to himself and stating that there are a couple of different ways to look at this, based upon things he has seen and experienced in his own life. I don't believe Jon said he believed him. He simply said he won't call him a liar because he can't get inside Alford's mind.

But that isn't good enough for you. If someone isn't willing to pile on you have to call him out. There are plenty of people quoting the Bible on this thread. It is rather ironic that the Christian thing to do would be to give the benefit of the doubt and let the judgement take care of itself. But as someone else here pointed out, people like to take things from the Bible to use them for their own ends by taking them out of context.
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I don't like to take anything from the bible. If you noticed I'm not one of those people. I wouldn't quote something that's unproven... let's leave it at that. Steve Alford has proved to everyone he is about as disingenuous and aloof as it gets. I don't see what's wrong with calling a spade a spade. The timing of this apology could not have been worse. Literally a week prior to this statement he was deflecting the criticism onto others. Sure maybe there's a sliver of a chance the jerkoff had an awakening in the several days between those two events, but I choose to bank my opinion on the way he has chosen to portray himself over a number of years rather than a number of days. Judge me for that all you want. Doesn't bother me one bit. The guy is fake.
 
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TritonHawkeye said:
Not sure WTH you are trying to say but my only understanding of South Africa is that rape is the norm, understanding and justice...not so much.
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So, basically you are saying that you are ignorant of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission and too lazy to look it up, so you are just going for the knee jerk stereotypical reaction.

Please tell me you are a Tavern Hawk. If not, the value of my education just went down a couple more points.
 
Alford is a zebra that will never lose its stripes. He never would have issued this "apology" if he were still at New Mexico. He is once again looking out for himself and his own well-being. It's pathetic. He's nothing more than a parasite.
 
CAARHawk said:
So, basically you are saying that you are ignorant of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission and too lazy to look it up, so you are just going for the knee jerk stereotypical reaction.

Please tell me you are a Tavern Hawk. If not, the value of my education just went down a couple more points.
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Big man on campus!

Dude the point you were trying to make sucked...sorry but it's true. The only thing worse would be if you tried to repeat yourself in every thread... Oh wait, you've already done that before.

Please, continue with your Truth and Reconciliation BS...I am sure everyone cares.
 
ddiction said:
Wow, so no regret from Pierce at all, even over the stuff he was convicted for.
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He said "I made my mistakes in the past and I've moved forward..." I wouldn't call that no regret, and I honestly wouldn't expect him to give an elaborate apology at this stage.

He did deny the incident Harty wrote about. He probably felt he had to - what else is he going to say? - but I don't believe him.
 
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