Added ISU Thread

[papahawk]

Being at the game last night I thought the Clone did OK but agree that the defense they went against will be nothing like the Hawks.

However I got very sick of hearing the announcer saying, "It's another Cyclone...1st Down".

I decided what we should do, providing our D is as stiff as I think it is, is on every 4th down situation say, "It's another Cyclone...4th down."

By the way the 5 guys I was with see the score next week in favor of the clones. something like 24-20. No one wanted to place any wagers so that say alot.

 

[zmjames6]

While I agree the NIU defense is not as good as Iowa's will be, it is a respectable unit. they did return all of their starters from a defense that ranked 30th in both total defense and scoring defense.

 

[J10Hawk]

While I agree the NIU defense is not as good as Iowa's will be, it is a respectable unit. they did return all of their starters from a defense that ranked 30th in both total defense and scoring defense.

NIU had one of the worst D's i've seen. plain and simple

 

[djwoody98]

Not to mention an absolutely turrible QB.

 

[J10Hawk]

i was going to say that too

 

[pin2win]

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[JonDMiller]

I decided what we should do, providing our D is as stiff as I think it is, is on every 4th down situation say, "It's another Cyclone...4th down.".

LOL. I like that one dad.

 

[HawkeyeDenis]

"NIU had one of the worst D's i've seen. plain and simple"

I think NIU came out flat. They got some bad breaks made some mistakes. After ISU ran up 17 points they stiffened up but by the end of the game they were tired. And considering they were down by 2 scores early they held ISU to 265 yds passing, 138yds total team rushing. Take away the 63 yard play and it wasn't a good opening day stat wise for ISU.

NIU has a better D than ISU. NIU outgained ISU on the ground. And that was against a team that was playing catchup and couldn't complete a pass.

 

[EddyP]

Correct me if I am wrong but did I see the ISU PLAYERS participating in this "another Cyclone 1st down" chant? Really, players participating in crowd chants? Um, ok.

 

[SheagleHawk]

While I agree the NIU defense is not as good as Iowa's will be, it is a respectable unit. they did return all of their starters from a defense that ranked 30th in both total defense and scoring defense.

You have to remember who NIU plays against. I'm not sold on AA. I think he struggles against Iowa, w/ Clayborn & company up in his grill ALL day. Seriously, AC is dominant and will demand double-teams to ensure AA is not running for his life. That leaves the opportunity for the rest of the DL to have a big day. I definitely don't see Robinson having near the day against us that he did yesterday. He's really not that explosive, and we all know hard it is to run on Iowa.

 

[EddyP]

You have to remember who NIU plays against. I'm not sold on AA. I think he struggles against Iowa, w/ Clayborn & company up in his grill ALL day. Seriously, AC is dominant and will demand double-teams to ensure AA is not running for his life. That leaves the opportunity for the rest of the DL to have a big day. I definitely don't see Robinson having near the day against us that he did yesterday. He's really not that explosive, and we all know hard it is to run on Iowa.

I was thinking the same thing last night after seeing his 2nd pick what he will do when he receives actual pressure(see last year's game). But, we'll see. Robinson finished with 97 yards and I think 68 of them were on one play. I thought they played ok for a first game but I think it came down to qb experience and NIU's qb didn't seem to have a clue.

 

[papahawk]

Correct me if I am wrong but did I see the ISU PLAYERS participating in this "another Cyclone 1st down" chant? Really, players participating in crowd chants? Um, ok.

You are correct! some players did participate but most did not. I got so sick of it I nearly puked. All in all the fans were respectful to me. Mark Pierson "WHO" kept introducing me as Jon's Dad to everyone that came around, as did a neighbor of mine, and I did find a number of Hawk fans.

Alot of the clones talked about beating the Hawks around me in the stands where no one knew me. Only fans decked out in black and gold were getting it. Go home you scum bags would be the only thing I can print on here...you get the point.

Again I was treated well in all cases...nothing worse than supporting their team. I was actually surprised. Did have one clone fan behind me, female, that had a very interesting vocabulary.. must have lived with a bunch of sailors for some time.

Go Hawks get one tomorrow then kick some cyclone butt next week.

 

[H8IAST8]

I got my fill of "It's another Golden Gopher 1st down" about 6 years ago in the dome. Everytime I hear that anywhere i cringe.

 

[yaman3]

ISUs Oline has to be better next game. Plainj and simple. If they aren't it will be a long day. That really worries me because I honestly thought they would be the most solid position group we have. Hopefully this is a case of needing a game to gel. The defense was OK, but they have to create more pressure. I think getting Sims back will help in that regard. We may be able to bring a LB more often with him back there. His run support was also sorely missed.

I don't think a feel any different about the game next week. If we win, it will be a dogfight. If AA plays like last year the result will be worse. He needs to go out and win this game IMO. I think it hinges on him.

 

[TripleSkipler]

We haven't even played a down this year and I'm not in the slightest scared of ISU. Let's be honest here, we smacked ISU in Ames last year pretty badly. To think they are going to have the personnel, quickness, playmaking, coaching, etc. to beat us with the confidence we have is somewhat laughable. ISU is going to have a nice year, but that will not be based on how they play Hawks, they will exclude our showdown once it's all said and done.

 

[IowaSS]

I got my fill of "It's another Golden Gopher 1st down" about 6 years ago in the dome. Everytime I hear that anywhere i cringe.

LOL! Beat me to the punch H8! I was going to ask if that guy got fired from the dome and is now announcing at Trice! We spent an entire night in some bar near Hooters at the Mall of America drunker than hell yelling "It's another Golden Gopher 1st down!" which that year probably only amounted to 8 or 9 first downs as we kicked the crap out of them! I still chuckle every time I hear it.

 

[twine]

I thought where ISU looked the weakest was when NIU was running it up the gut, especially in the second half. Also, NIU went deep and threw incompletions a lot because the QB led the recievers about 1 or 2 yards too much every time they went for the juggular. Here's to hoping Stanzi and the recieving corps can burn them and Jewel and Robinson can slice through their DL for some 7+ YPC, I wouldn't be the leaset bit suprised to see the Hawks put up 600 yards of offense against the clowns if we are as good as we should be.

 

[iabowhunter]

If the safety's play up all night for ISU like last night, Stanzi will make them pay.

 

[DDThompson]

I thought where ISU looked the weakest was when NIU was running it up the gut, especially in the second half.

Yeah, good point. I was there and couldn't believe NIU didn't keep that up.

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I don't think they were solid on counters/traps either. LBs got sucked in or didn't fight through blocks fast enough.

The defense did fairly well at stringing out stretches but then couldn't get the first man (or two or three) to tackle.

They were better than I thought. I know someone that works with a wife of an ISU coach. The ISU coaches are "not worried" about the defense. They think it will be a unit that is better than what people think.

Pass blocking was good. Rush blocking wasn't. WRs have speed (duh) and blocked downfield fairly well. Arnaud same mistakes.

Referees were bad. No one knew what was going on with a couple of calls. And with the forward pass called a fumble and upheld (absolutely horrible call on the field and in the booth), it took the wind out of the crowd. Definitely a sense of, "Here we go again."

The Clones looked a lot better than last season's first game. They are a solid team.

 

[ImInTheSouth]

Saw about half of the isu game on tv. my opinion of isu is their defense won't be as bad as expected but, by the same token, their offense won't be nearly as good as most cyclone fans would like to believe. Also, no way they run AA that many times against iowa or any other b12 opponent. He just won't hold up for a season taking hits from legit d1 defensive players. And without all of the qb draws, they do very little offensively last night.