9-9 in conf for Iowa "virtual lock"





bcl20 said:
Wisconsin is always overrated by Pomeroy. He even writes about it. That said, it's still a good win. You get to 9-9, have no bad losses and have wins over Iowa State, Purdue (twice), Illinois, Northwestern (twice), Wisconsin.

That gives you 7 top 100 wins, (Iowa State, Wisconsin, Illinois and Purdue all may end up being top 50 teams). I would think you're in if you don't lose to a Penn State or Nebraska.

I feel like every year there is a team who has no great wins but no awful losses and no one is sure what to do with them. We could easily be that team.
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I forgot my calculator at home but I'm pretty sure that adds up to 10 wins. :)
 


sportstalent said:
Pac-12 is up, right now they have three virtual locks at this point with Arizona, Oregon and UCLA...I am not sold on UCLA yet however, but they are ranked and people think them beating Mizzou actually means something.

The MWC should get all those teams in, they have a good league there and may supplant the A-10 as the best mid-major league soon. Butler moving to the A-10 is bad for Iowa actually, new team coming out of that league and Butler is going to be in no matter what.

The Big 12 is just bad, Baylor is just laying an egg this seasons and I don't see them in, but Kansas/KSU will be in and who knows, that may be it. Iowa State has a shot to finish 3rd, but I am not sure how much weight that will carry as West Virginia is just awful and TCU isn't really good. The Big 12 did themselves no favors with those two programs so far.

I don't see the Big East getting as much respect as they have in the past and UConn being ineligible helps Iowa as well.

ACC is bad beyond Duke/Miami, UNC will probably make it as the ACC has a lot of really bad teams and UNC has some talent. I don't know how many of them make it.

What we all should be focused on are the mid-majors, with a lot of major conference's being down, who takes those spots? Lehigh is going to have to play without their best player, VCU is a good team that gets no recognition and Murray State may not win their conference.

Will the Big Ten get an extra bid, like an Iowa team if they do finish 7th at 9-9, or let a whole bunch of mid-majors in the field? I think depending on how many mid-major conference tournament upsets happen or don't happen Iowa can squeak in.
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Pac12 is probably the 5th best conference right now. Get past Oregon, UCLA, and Arizona and its bubble teams galore. 4 teams might get in, 5 will be a stretch. Pac12 is still very much a weak Power 6 conference.
 


ssckelley said:
With this young team Iowa is going to win at least 1 game they shouldn't and lose at least 1 game they shouldn't. But let's pretend for a minute they get to 9 wins without any "marquee" win, that puts them at 20-11 and probably a 6 seed in the BTT with a first round game against Penn St, Northwestern, or Nebraska. Chances are good the win that game but if they lose in the 2nd round to Minnesota or MSU IMO Iowa is in with a 21-12 overall record. Except for Michigan they have been competive in all of their losses.

Another thing to keep in mind is the tournament committee has historically liked teams playing well at the end of the season, if Iowa wins all the games they are supposed to they would have won 7 of their last 10 games (BTT included).

Isn't it fun to be arguing this stuff again?
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I'd agree w/ this.
Preseason I had Iowa 20 wins, 9-9 in conf and stated 1 BTT win to get in. The scenario you put out there would fit that.
 








Something to consider, as well...

A team like Minnesota - they already have TEN (10) WINS over Top 100 RPI teams. Most in college basketball.

A team like New Mexico has only PLAYED ONE (1) 200+ RPI team.

By comparison, Iowa has played 9 Top 100 RPI teams and has won 4 of them.
 
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JonDMiller said:
9-9 will probably be good for 7th in the league, maybe 6th. 7 plays 10 in the first round and plays the 2 in the second round. 6 plays the 11 then plays the three. The two will come from Indiana or Michigan, the three likely Minnesota.
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I know. I just have a feeling about it. Can't provide any reasonable support, not even trend (;)). Maybe it is just that going 9-9 will mean the team has played and learned a lot and may be ready to get that one big win, or that they will be playing for more than the other team, I don't really know.

Now, Iowa could do better than 9-9 too. I think if they are less than .500, they get beat in the second game and head off for a nice run in the NIT.
 


storminspank said:
Pac12 is probably the 5th best conference right now. Get past Oregon, UCLA, and Arizona and its bubble teams galore. 4 teams might get in, 5 will be a stretch. Pac12 is still very much a weak Power 6 conference.
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I realize that, but wasn't it two years ago they got one team in, or was it two and the regular season champ was a 12 seed like the conference tourney winner...they have came a long way from there.

They still are a bad conference overall, but you have three teams to talk about rather than wondering who was going to get in the dance with no favorites and every other conference hoping the regular season champ wins it and doesn't cost any bubble spots.
 


sportstalent said:
I realize that, but wasn't it two years ago they got one team in, or was it two and the regular season champ was a 12 seed like the conference tourney winner...they have came a long way from there.

They still are a bad conference overall, but you have three teams to talk about rather than wondering who was going to get in the dance with no favorites and every other conference hoping the regular season champ wins it and doesn't cost any bubble spots.
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That was last season they were a 2 bid conference, the regular season champ even got left out. There are a couple of teams on the rise though.
 


storminspank said:
Something to consider, as well...

A team like Minnesota - they already have TEN (10) WINS over Top 100 RPI teams. Most in college basketball.

A team like New Mexico has only PLAYED ONE (1) Top 100 RPI team.

By comparison, Iowa has played 9 Top 100 RPI teams and has won 4 of them.
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I'd love to have a shot at Alfraud in the NCAA tourney and send him and his Dep hair gel packing for home.
 


All our good wins didn't sway the selection committee last year as far as getting into the tourny. This year, they owe us one, dammit!
 


How about we just don't lose again? In the immortal words of Jake Taylor: I guess there's just one thing left to do. Win the whole f**king thing
 


hawkfan8691 said:
How about we just don't lose again? In the immortal words of Jake Taylor: I guess there's just one thing left to do. Win the whole f**king thing
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I know one thing: Pull off a shocker and we're a lot closer to punching that Dance Ticket. How about tonight? Is Ohio State really that great?
 


The Big 12 is down this year, but I disagree that it's terrible. It's a thoroughly average league. Kansas is a top ten team, but struggles to score. KSU is basically OSU with McGruder instead of Thomas. OU is already 4-1 in the league and has 6 top 100 RPI wins. Baylor and OSU have some really good wins. ISU is also a bubble team. That's 60% of the league that's going to be in the conversation.

The real problem with the Big 12 is the 40% at the bottom - they are truly god awful. They won't help any Big 12 team's RPI, but they will give the top six a bunch of wins. I expect every team in the top 6 to get at least 6 wins each out of the games with them. That means they just need to go 4-6 versus the other teams in the top six to end up at 10-8 minimum in the Big 12.

I think 5 Big 12 teams make it, one gets left out with at least a 10-8 record, and only one team makes the Sweet 16.
 


BryceC said:
The Big 12 is down this year, but I disagree that it's terrible. It's a thoroughly average league. Kansas is a top ten team, but struggles to score. KSU is basically OSU with McGruder instead of Thomas. OU is already 4-1 in the league and has 6 top 100 RPI wins. Baylor and OSU have some really good wins. ISU is also a bubble team. That's 60% of the league that's going to be in the conversation.

The real problem with the Big 12 is the 40% at the bottom - they are truly god awful. They won't help any Big 12 team's RPI, but they will give the top six a bunch of wins. I expect every team in the top 6 to get at least 6 wins each out of the games with them. That means they just need to go 4-6 versus the other teams in the top six to end up at 10-8 minimum in the Big 12.

I think 5 Big 12 teams make it, one gets left out with at least a 10-8 record, and only one team makes the Sweet 16.
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Name the 5 teams that get in. What a joke.

ESPN had the Big XII as the 7th rated conference yesterday. The 7th rated conference aint gettin 5 teams in, pal.
 


Section136 said:
Name the 5 teams that get in. What a joke.

ESPN had the Big XII as the 7th rated conference yesterday. The 7th rated conference aint gettin 5 teams in, pal.
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Heck Lunardi has 6 B12 teams making it. With how bad the bottom of the conference is the top 6 teams are going to have bloated records which will help them get more bids than they deserve.
 




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