2023 NFL Predictions…
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99topdawg
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That looks about right. I also think Shannon might get a look too. Moss is the one I'm not sure about. If he gets drafted, he won't be a high draft pick. He's very good in press man coverage and is a great tackler. His zone coverage is not always the best, which may hurt him. He's got good size and smarts so I wouldn't be shocked to see him as high as 5th round, but I'm not really sure how different players translate to the pros.
Fryowa
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If he gets signed at all it’ll be as a safety, and I don’t know if he has the size for that. He’s on the smaller size of most starters.
Hasn’t been a white CB with any real playing time at the spot since Christ was a cowboy and he’s not the physical beast that Troy Apke was. We won’t get into a discussion on the football board about why, but it blows my mind that any white kid with NFL aspirations would choose to play CB.
Northside Hawk
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No way does Moss make it at corner in the NFL. But he could have a Sean Considine type career as Safety/Nickel/Special Teams.
Northside Hawk
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Campbell, in the right defense, could be a Ted Hendricks, JJ Watt type terror.
trj
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He can do slot corner work. NFL teams are in nickel or dime at least 50% of the time anyway. Are you going to put him on a island on the outside? Nope. Is he the 5th or 6th DB on your roster? Absolutely. The NFL is about cheap labor, a 6th round pick, basically asked to defend the slot on about 20 snaps a game and do special teams work...Moss can get a 5-7 year career out of doing exactly that.
Cooper Dejean is going to test your theory. At 6'1, a sub 4.5 forty and super athletic, he has the potential to actually play on the outside in the NFL.
99topdawg
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I was going to bring up the fact that there isn't a recent history of white CBs, but hopefully that won't make a difference. The fact that he's not the best in zone may hurt his chances of getting much of a look at safety. Given that, and what you said about his size will hurt him. His man coverage and tackling will, at the very least, get him into a camp. Being 6'1" and physical will get him drafted IMO.
I haven't thought about it for awhile, but I do remember wondering why he's a CB. Do players have a say? It obviously worked out for us, but will it for his future? I dont know. DeJean is 6'1" 210. Is he going to be stuck at CB? I hope he ends up being used as a jack of all trades type, from LB/cash to safety to CB.
Fryowa
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DeJean has the body to play linebacker or safety.
I think Moss gets drafted. He is going to run 4.4 or better, and he's 6' 1", 193 lbs. He is a great tackler.
I think the only thing that will potentially hold him back is his lack of a PCL, and what NFL teams think about that.
SwirlinLingerie
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Here's a few more for discussion.
Does Tory Taylor give the NFL a shot this spring?
What about Joe Evans? I don't think he gets drafted but he seems like the classic Iowa player that finds a way to make a team, maybe a practice squad guy. And maybe he gets tried in a couple positions.
I know Van Ness was already on the NFL's radar coming into this season. No idea if he's continued to progress along that path. Assume he'd be back, but I don't think you can be shocked when any guy three years into college decides to go if there are assurances he'll be drafted.
Does Tory Taylor give the NFL a shot this spring?
What about Joe Evans? I don't think he gets drafted but he seems like the classic Iowa player that finds a way to make a team, maybe a practice squad guy. And maybe he gets tried in a couple positions.
I know Van Ness was already on the NFL's radar coming into this season. No idea if he's continued to progress along that path. Assume he'd be back, but I don't think you can be shocked when any guy three years into college decides to go if there are assurances he'll be drafted.
He'll have to beef up some for LB. I think he's like 205 lbs or so currently. He's a thick athletic 205 but it's asking a lot for him to put on 20-25 more LBs and maintain his speed and athleticism.
Campbell and Laporta are no brainers I agree they'll be on NFL rosters most likely starting day 1 depending on where they land.
Moss is such an enigma. He'll get a shot but if he gets drafted earlier then the 6th round I'll be surprised and if he's not drafted that wouldn't surprise me either.
I'll be curious at what Merriweather runs. He's an athletic dude from watching his basketball days. He probably has a better shot at the NFL then some might think. If he was a couple inches taller and built like XN he'd have probably been a higher ranked prospect. Nevertheless I think he's a player.
NorthKCHawk
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Its been a long time since Jason Seehorn roamed the corner for the Giants. I don't see Moss being so super awesome that he bucks what is a clear and long term trend regarding white CBs. Safety, special teams, maybe some nickel. He is a good hitter and has good instincts. Someone may take a flyer late in the rounds.
Dejean will be drafted to do something. Too good an athlete. But, we have him for 1 more year. He needs to talk to the coaches about what position he can play at the next level and park his wagon at that spot next year. Right now, he is a swiss army knife.
Dejean will be drafted to do something. Too good an athlete. But, we have him for 1 more year. He needs to talk to the coaches about what position he can play at the next level and park his wagon at that spot next year. Right now, he is a swiss army knife.
Fryowa
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Joe Evans is going to have the same problem as Mitch King only worse. He's 6-2, 246#. NFL tackles would eat him for breakfast. No chance.
Fryowa
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DeJean would fit in the Troy Polamalu mold. He could easily be flying around like that making open field tackles. Whether NFL GMs would take a chance is a whole 'nother deal.
Riley Moss as great as he is as a Hawkeye, is a college player. He's not even close to athletic enough to play in the NFL. CB is out, obviously, and he's not built enough to play safety.
NorthKCHawk
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I agree on both fronts.
I would love to see DeJean at full time Cash or strong safety, but damn that kid is balling at CB. IMHO, it is a lot easier to find good safeties then it is to find good CBs. Would not surprise me if Parker leaves him there.
Can he play TE like Parker Hesse?? Hesse and Matt Nelsons stories about flipping sides of the LOS to hang around the NFL 5 plus yrs is incredible. Hesse is playing more now then he had his whole career prior to this yr with ATL.
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Switch to fullback/H-back, ala Parker Hesse? Very similar pedigree (HS QB moved to DE).
Oops...made the same comment before I scrolled down and saw you beat me to it.
I think you are wrong on Moss' athleticism, I think he will wow at the combine. I am not saying he has the ability to be an elite corner (there are fewer of those than there are NFL teams). But I think he will be drafted (unless the lack of PCL scares teams away), and he will make a team.
