2016 Recruiting Is Actually Going Worse Than 2014 and 2015?

iowalaw

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Every summer, us Hawk fans look forward to what could be. Recruiting season means that there is a chance that a blue chip WR/LB/QB/RB difference maker will commit to the hawks and give us HOPE of things to come for the next 4 yrs.

I currently have HOPE that the new recruiting coordinator will pull a rabbit out of his hat (despite his small town Iowa background/lack of pedigree) and raise Hawkeye recruiting to the next level by casting a wider net, trying innovative new ideas in marketing, adding enthusiasm to the process. I have HOPE that our young coaches, Ferentz and Woods (despite their small town Iowa backgrounds and lack of success thus far) will relate to young urban players and invigorate our stale recruiting process. Despite routinely losing the #1 rated in-state recruit to other schools, I have HOPE that Reece Morgan will seal the borders and lock up the top two or three in-state players. I have HOPE that Greg Davis will cultivate the Texas high school pipeline that he developed after having one of the highest profile coaching positions in the state of Texas for years and years. I have HOPE that our "new blood," Kennedy and White, will leave no stone left unturned and spend 100 hours per week finding some out of state jewels. I have HOPE that Kirk is out there sealing the deal with top recruits as our "closer," like Tressel and Harbaugh effortlessly do. It is this HOPE of reading good news in recruiting that keeps most of us logging on to this site in the middle of the summer, when no football is being played.

Thus far, the "new" staff's recruiting has been a bitter disappointment. Our recruiting classes finished 12th in the conference in 2014 and 2015 under their guidance, and we have walkons and guys with no other D1 offers all over the roster to prove it. Whats more, our former recruiting coordinator has publicly stated that the new staff doesn't put the same emphasis on recruiting that he did.

So did staff get a wake up call this year to shape up or ship out? Kirk said all the right things in his end of season press conference. That he would spend time studying other teams schemes and spend more time on his craft. In addition, our recruiting coordinator says that we have sent out more offers this year than in years past, and that we are targeting the state of Georgia, and many see these as signs of improvement.

Unfortunately, neither the new recruiting coordinator nor Kirk's lip service have paid off thus far on the recruiting trail. It is June, and we currently have just 4 commits (ahead of only Purdue and Indiana in the Big 10). By mid June last year, our 58th ranked national recruiting class already had more than double that amount, with 9 commits. By Mid June in 2014, our 59th ranked recruiting class already had 7 at this stage, including 4 star Jay Scheel. Teams are signing players earlier and earlier, and we are bucking the trend in a negative way. This recruiting class is HUGE, as it will be needed to bolster the previous low ranked classes, which have already been decimated by attrition.

While it is nice that we are casting a wide net in Georgia, a state where we have absolutely no footprint. While I am not a coach, it appears that we are targeting Georgia at the expense of the talent rich Big Ten footprint. Does Kirk know that talent rich New Jersey and Maryland are in the Big Ten now and that we have a much better chance at landing kids from there?? Does he know that we have had a ton of success with guys from PA and Ohio? Big Ten kids? Ohio State and Penn State can't sign them all.

I believe this staff is lost, and the recruiting results continue to speak for themselves.
 
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but I am going to guess it has something to do with how awful every aspect of Iowa Hawkeye football has become in the last 5 years and that KF and his whole staff should be changed immediately.

tiresome.

- apologist that also wants a change for Hawkeye Football.
 
tl:dr

but I am going to guess it has something to do with how awful every aspect of Iowa Hawkeye football has become in the last 5 years and that KF and his whole staff should be changed immediately.

tiresome.

- apologist that also wants a change for Hawkeye Football.

Thanks Walker. I did read it and you summed it up quite well. For anyone else who doesn't want to waste their time please refer to Walker's post.
 
They actually have a very good start. Commented are 2 very athletic defensive ends and a QB that picked Iowa over Wisconsin. They also have interest from several highly rated recruits including AJ Epenesa. The coaching stability, fine facilities, and great atmosphere are helping out.
 
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Well trying to recruit better and being able to are two different things... GA does have a ton of good kids to pick from. I do find it odd that they've gone away from Texas. I thought Davis alone was supposed to open more doors to HS schools there not less. We used to get some good kids from there.

I think this is a huge make or break year. Winning cures all. Now that the new football building is up and going I would think that if Iowa were to take advantage of the weak schedule they have and put up a 9 plus win season they'd have to turn kids away. For a kid to see that facility and know that is their home away from home for the next 4 to 5 of the best years of their lives should be tough to turn down if they know they'll be wining games too
 
Every summer, us Hawk fans look forward to what could be. Recruiting season means that there is a chance that a blue chip WR/LB/QB/RB difference maker will commit to the hawks and give us HOPE of things to come for the next 4 yrs.

I currently have HOPE that the new recruiting coordinator will pull a rabbit out of his hat (despite his small town Iowa background/lack of pedigree) and raise Hawkeye recruiting to the next level by casting a wider net, trying innovative new ideas in marketing, adding enthusiasm to the process. I have HOPE that our young coaches, Ferentz and Woods (despite their small town Iowa backgrounds and lack of success thus far) will relate to young urban players and invigorate our stale recruiting process. Despite routinely losing the #1 rated in-state recruit to other schools, I have HOPE that Reece Morgan will seal the borders and lock up the top two or three in-state players. I have HOPE that Greg Davis will cultivate the Texas high school pipeline that he developed after having one of the highest profile coaching positions in the state of Texas for years and years. I have HOPE that our "new blood," Kennedy and White, will leave no stone left unturned and spend 100 hours per week finding some out of state jewels. I have HOPE that Kirk is out there sealing the deal with top recruits as our "closer," like Tressel and Harbaugh effortlessly do. It is this HOPE of reading good news in recruiting that keeps most of us logging on to this site in the middle of the summer, when no football is being played.

Thus far, the "new" staff's recruiting has been a bitter disappointment. Our recruiting classes finished 12th in the conference in 2014 and 2015 under their guidance, and we have walkons and guys with no other D1 offers all over the roster to prove it. Whats more, our former recruiting coordinator has publicly stated that the new staff doesn't put the same emphasis on recruiting that he did.

So did staff get a wake up call this year to shape up or ship out? Kirk said all the right things in his end of season press conference. That he would spend time studying other teams schemes and spend more time on his craft. In addition, our recruiting coordinator says that we have sent out more offers this year than in years past, and that we are targeting the state of Georgia, and many see these as signs of improvement.

Unfortunately, neither the new recruiting coordinator nor Kirk's lip service have paid off thus far on the recruiting trail. It is June, and we currently have just 4 commits (ahead of only Purdue and Indiana in the Big 10). By mid June last year, our 58th ranked national recruiting class already had more than double that amount, with 9 commits. By Mid June in 2014, our 59th ranked recruiting class already had 7 at this stage, including 4 star Jay Scheel. Teams are signing players earlier and earlier, and we are bucking the trend in a negative way. This recruiting class is HUGE, as it will be needed to bolster the previous low ranked classes, which have already been decimated by attrition.

While it is nice that we are casting a wide net in Georgia, a state where we have absolutely no footprint. While I am not a coach, it appears that we are targeting Georgia at the expense of the talent rich Big Ten footprint. Does Kirk know that talent rich New Jersey and Maryland are in the Big Ten now and that we have a much better chance at landing kids from there?? Does he know that we have had a ton of success with guys from PA and Ohio? Big Ten kids? Ohio State and Penn State can't sign them all.

I believe this staff is lost, and the recruiting results continue to speak for themselves.

25 minutes of your life you'll never get back! :D Way tooooooo long. I got about halfway thru the 1st chapter then looked for a next post to summarize.
 
This is why i like twitter, because even the crazy people have to break it up into 140 character bursts.
 
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As was pointed out in a recent podcast involving several known Hawkeye media members...........look for the end of June and if we don't have double digit verbals by then things will not be faring well.
 
Chad Hawley, the Big Ten's associate commissioner for compliance, said Friday the phrases "good standing" and "bona fide reason" were intentionally left vague to give each school flexibility to create their own policies.
"In a general sense, what it means is if you're progressing academically, if you're following team rules, if you're behaving yourself in the community, then you're in good standing," Hawley said.
 
iowalaw;1425592 While it is nice that we are casting a wide net in Georgia said:
Does Kirk know that talent rich New Jersey and Maryland are in the Big Ten now and that we have a much better chance at landing kids from there??[/B] Does he know that we have had a ton of success with guys from PA and Ohio? Big Ten kids? Ohio State and Penn State can't sign them all.

I believe this staff is lost, and the recruiting results continue to speak for themselves.

We just had Coker and several other players from maryland on the team. I agree that recruiting has been down but maybe the coaches aim low for development projects. Maybe great high school players , skill players, just see Iowa as old school fb style and not prone to using their talents.

There are 7 players on the roster now from Maryland which is almost 10% of the scholarships. I agree with New Jersey as Hayden got a lot a great players from there.

I count 7 or 8 Texas players on the roster and they all have low jersey numbers meaning smaller and faster players. Hopefully pretty fast.
 
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It's way too early to freak out. Signing day isn't for 8 months. As we see every year verbals don't mean ****. Am I concerned about our recruiting based on the past few years? Yes, of course, but I'm not going to panic at the beginning of freaking June. Give the staff some time before going all chicken little.
 
Hawknick said.....

-----They also have interest from several highly rated recruits

YAWN!!!!! KF could give a Rats A about closing the deal on any highly rated recruits.....been saying for almost a decade now, that this egomaniac totally gets off on trying to coach up 2 stars instead of removing all doubt and trying to land no brainer talent. He doesn't get as much praise winning with Blue Chips. D***, why are people just NOW beginning to see what I've seen for almost a decade now??? Again, I cannot wait for the likes of Mike Hlas and Pat Harty out there to suddenly take a courage pill after this joke is fired.....will be totally comical and pathetic to see them for the FIRST time feel safe enough to talk all tough and pronounce that it was no doubt the right decision all along. Just wish we could could see their cocky Barney Fife sneers as they suddenly think that they are big time columnists....sorry, too late to the party.
 
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