10-14 football coach gets $22.5 Million!
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ssckelley
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So let's head over to the basketball forum and let's talk about it. I still don't see why I should care about how much the football coach at Iowa State makes.
BlindDogScooter
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The OP apparently doesn't give any weight to trends and changes in culture... I think Campbell is worth every dime. I'm just surprised the head douche bag over there was willing to pony up the dough.
Stanzi
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The fans would probably have turned on JP if he had let Campbell leave without making a legitimate offer.
eyekwah
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Those 10 wins are the following: Kansas (2), Texas Tech (2), UNI (1), Akron (1), San Jose State (1), Baylor(1), Oklahoma (1) and TCU (1). The last two listed were by one touchdown. From a strictly business view the salary increase isn't justified. If he was given a bonus for beating Oklahoma and TCU I could buy that. Knowing the history of ISU in the Big 8 and Big 12 does not provide one a high degree of confidence that success can be maintained.
Pollard is taking a huge risk increasing Campbell's salary. The salary increases for Campbell and assistants has to come from somewhere at the expense of something else unless he can increase football ticket prices by about $7.00 per ticket for each home game.
The survival of the Big 12 is contingent on Texas and Oklahoma remaining members. Can ISU count on the current TV revenue with or without them? Unless you live under a rock the loss of subscription TV customers is being felt by the networks, especially ESPN. When the current Big 12 contract with ESPN is up it is unlikely they get the same kind of money.
Not the best decision.
Pollard is taking a huge risk increasing Campbell's salary. The salary increases for Campbell and assistants has to come from somewhere at the expense of something else unless he can increase football ticket prices by about $7.00 per ticket for each home game.
The survival of the Big 12 is contingent on Texas and Oklahoma remaining members. Can ISU count on the current TV revenue with or without them? Unless you live under a rock the loss of subscription TV customers is being felt by the networks, especially ESPN. When the current Big 12 contract with ESPN is up it is unlikely they get the same kind of money.
Not the best decision.
HawkeyeWalker
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It makes sense. Although, I would likely have waited until later next season to see how things trend. If he wins 6 or more next year and recruiting improves, absolutely no question you lock him up as much as possible.
If they improve at all on Oline and Defense, they are likely to win 6+ again next year.
If they improve at all on Oline and Defense, they are likely to win 6+ again next year.
blubberhawk
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Ferentz has to be happy. He will no longer be criticized for being the most overpaid employee in the State.
It took Ferentz 19 years, BIG conference titles, 5 top 10 finishes, 2 Orange Bowls and a Rose Bowl to get to his salary.
Campbell is almost there with a one hit wonder season, a 7-5 record and a berth in a "who gives a shit" bowl. Maybe they should have waited to see what he will do with his own players...At any rate, worth a good chuckle. Just think if he would have went 12-0. They may have renamed the University (Campbell) although I think there already is a Campbell University.
This is ridiculous. Campbell isn't there yet. Fear-based move by Pollard. At least wait till he's been taking flights out of town. PI's are a thing.
Thawki
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I find it humorous how someone feels the need to call out another school for extending the contract of a really good coach. It is obviously a smart move. Have you watched their team play this year? He is a damn good coach. I think most knowledgeable people would say it was the right move by them to extend his contract. I think you look foolish for trying to denigrate the move.
And there is no bigger Iowa fan in the world than me.
I don't think anyone is saying that they aren't improved, but Campbell did this largely off the backs of Rhoads' players, minus Montgomery and a handful of others. Not to mention this is a pattern at Iowa State. IF Campbell continues this success and builds on it, I'll be convinced, but everything points to the usual end result for the Cyclones: A) Coach gone after a short period of success, poached by a more desirable program, or B) Plateaus at 7 wins, marked decline and canned. Until ISU breaks the pattern they've had for nearly 40 years now (almost broke it with McCarney), I'll side with history.
hawkdrummer1
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Especially when keeping all your point guards happy is an issue...
The salary increase is about exactly what Big 12 teams are expecting to receive from the championship game. Probably just earmarked that for the raises.
Fryowa
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What are these point guard things you speak of?
Kennyfromminne
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Did Rhoads play lanning at lb? Al
Fryowa
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First of all I'm not a clown fan whatsoever and I think the Big 12 (10?) is a total joke, so I'm not defending them.
But, that salary increase is chump change to a P5 football program, even ISU. Those sorts of things are never tied to revenue such as ticket prices, etc. But even if they were, ISU is historically about 10,000 short of capacity for home games other than Iowa. It's almost like clockwork. If you sell half of those normally available seats (which will definitely happen due to the new Baby Jesus Campbell in town), you've knocked out the pay raise right there.
What I'm getting at is that $2.4 million is a blip on the radar these days. And Texas and Oklahoma are going nowhere. Texas sucks shit as much as ISU now, and Oklahoma isn't giving up being the king of the Big 12. The point is moot anyway because if you think those schools would meet the B1G academic standards (the B1G is the only conference it makes sense for them to join) you're high. I'd trade Nebraska for Oklahoma in a heartbeat but it won't happen.
God bless him. Dude won life's lottery. Cha-ching.
Thawki
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He improved on the backs of the players from the previous coach. The school gave him an extension and raise after showing immediate success. Both of those sound like Hayden Fry at Iowa.
What points to the pattern continuing? They gave him a great extension right away after success on the field to show they are committed. That is what any school would do that is doing things the right way.
I don’t blame you, much, for thinking your way. But that doesn’t change the fact that it was absolutely the right move to extend his contract and up the pay. Why do people feel the need to act like ISU is doing something wrong by making these moves? When you do that you just look foolish with your comments.
