Steve Alford

Is it irrational to hate all those that piled into Carver and cheered on the both of them during the 2004 season? Perfect example of why keep bringing his name up!!

It's a perfect example of people supporting players who had nothing to do with the situation and not taking out their anger for Alford/Pierce on them.

So you think Alford is a great guy until he personally pisses in your Cheerios. Fine. I think he's a scumbag, and I'll always enjoy seeing him fail because of it.
 


From Article about Alford when hired at UCLA (about the Pierre Pierce incident).

According to the official report from a special committee that investigated the incident after some ugly facts emerged, the victim was being contacted by Jim Goodrich, the campus representative of the Christian group Athletes in Action. The victim was invited to a “prayer meeting,â€￾ which turned out to be nothing more than an attempt to strong-arm the victim into “backing off and not causing problems for a basketball program that could overpower her.â€￾ The report goes on to say that Jim Goodrich had a longstanding relationship and a “close friendshipâ€￾ with Alford.

This is one thing he loves to do - he likes to use his "Faith" as some kind of moral shield before he does crooked s*** He gives speeches all the time at camps (I've heard one in person) about swearing and character ect, and then tells people the next day "Do you know who the F*** I am?".

Maybe he has gotten better and learned... but that still leaves us with an average b-ball coach with two sweet 16 appearances in 25 years of coaching.
 


Look... As I said before, I'm not making an argument for the guys character....

How many coaches never make it to the sweet 16??

So I don't really care if he only has 2. He's still an above average coach.
 


Look... As I said before, I'm not making an argument for the guys character....

How many coaches never make it to the sweet 16??

So I don't really care if he only has 2. He's still an above average coach.

Above average? I have can barely call him average.

I'm not going to go through every coaching in America but just as perspective 7 out of the 10 coaches in the Big Ten have done better in the NCAA tourney then Alford -many in much less time(I left out Pitino and Collins since they just started coaching this year or last year)
 


Above average? I have can barely call him average.

I'm not going to go through every coaching in America but just as perspective 7 out of the 10 coaches in the Big Ten have done better in the NCAA tourney then Alford -many in much less time(I left out Pitino and Collins since they just started coaching this year or last year)

Big ten probably has the best coaches in the country so you are comparing him against above average coaches.

If you looked across the country in major conferences and looked at overall record, he'd be above average.
 


Big ten probably has the best coaches in the country so you are comparing him against above average coaches.

If you looked across the country in major conferences and looked at overall record, he'd be above average.

Average, above average. Either way, he's nothing special. Not bad, not great.
 


It's a perfect example of people supporting players who had nothing to do with the situation and not taking out their anger for Alford/Pierce on them.

So you think Alford is a great guy until he personally pisses in your Cheerios. Fine. I think he's a scumbag, and I'll always enjoy seeing him fail because of it.

Note: First let me say this about that bolded comment. Your better than that TM and educated enough to know it is wrong to make such a broad statement about someone you don't know. Being a journalist you of all people should know that!

I choose to be impartial, because that was a very difficult situation to have been put in. Yes we all can sit back and say we would have done the right thing and handled it differently.


Fact is PP is scum of the earth and he has hurt and affected many people by those sick actions.
 
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And his sticky, too. That attitude stayed with Iowa Fandom. I mean, have you read some of the posters on this site?

No wait, that's why Mr. Davis was let to.

So maybe that's why Alford was hired ... a perfect match with the vocal high and mighty fanbase.
Now that's an idea Iowa fans should let go.. keeping mediocrity <with Mr. Davis> 'cause he does/did things the right way....

I think many Hawk fans would put up with a coach that was a dbag. Case in point: that coach from Wisconsin (or MSU) or ... you provide the coach's name.
Winning makes most fans forgive. I don't like Alfraud 'cause he didn't win at Iowa.
 
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Now that's an idea Iowa fans should let go.. keeping mediocrity <with Mr. Davis> 'cause he does/did things the right way....

I think many Hawk fans would put up with a coach that was a dbag. Case in point: that coach from Wisconsin (or MSU) or ... you provide the coach's name.
Winning makes most fans forgive. I don't like Alfraud 'cause he didn't win at Iowa.

Bo Ryan and Izzo haven't very publicly mishandled (that's being kind) a rape case involving one of their players. Even when we were good in 2005-06, I still hated Alford but still loved Iowa basketball. And I don't think I was alone in feeling that way.
 


Bo Ryan and Izzo haven't very publicly mishandled (that's being kind) a rape case involving one of their players. Even when we were good in 2005-06, I still hated Alford but still loved Iowa basketball. And I don't think I was alone in feeling that way.

^^ You were not alone in that feeling. The team still had "Iowa" on their jerseys and 12 other players to cheer.

Plus you could see in Alford's previous seasons he was not a good in-game coach and you have to wonder when good players leave the team.
 


I liked Alford and PP. I don't care about off the court crap. Winning is most important. Too bad PP couldn't wait until after 06 to beat that girl up. That team would have been amazing with him.
 


I liked Alford and PP. I don't care about off the court crap. Winning is most important. Too bad PP couldn't wait until after 06 to beat that girl up. That team would have been amazing with him.

I hope to God you're just being sarcastic.
 


Note: First let me say this about that bolded comment. Your better than that TM and educated enough to know it is wrong to make such a broad statement about someone you don't know. Being a journalist you of all people should know that!

I choose to be impartial, because that was a very difficult situation to have been put in. Yes we all can sit back and say we would have done the right thing and handled it differently.


Fact is PP is scum of the earth and he has hurt and affected many people by those sick actions.

I guess you missed the post above where Alford tried to strong arm her or scar her by having his good buddy invite the victim to a "prayer meeting".

There is ample evidence to suggest Alford is an average coach... but much much more evidence to suggest he is a grade A D-bag.
 


I guess you missed the post above where Alford tried to strong arm her or scar her by having his good buddy invite the victim to a "prayer meeting".

There is ample evidence to suggest Alford is an average coach... but much much more evidence to suggest he is a grade A D-bag.

This has been discussed than and now. Like earlier post stated to bad we can't just move on from it, makes no sense to rehash this stuff every year. I guess people love negativity, Oh yeah it's a message board. :)
 


This has been discussed than and now. Like earlier post stated to bad we can't just move on from it, makes no sense to rehash this stuff every year. I guess people love negativity, Oh yeah it's a message board. :)

There are a lot of people who like to see him fail. If you're not among those people, then let them talk amongst themselves, instead of starting debate about why people still hate him.

It's not like a thread titled "Steve Alford" is going to surprise you. I'm not going to apologize for you opening a thread that obviously would contain content you don't agree with.
 


There are a lot of people who like to see him fail. If you're not among those people, then let them talk amongst themselves, instead of starting debate about why people still hate him.

It's not like a thread titled "Steve Alford" is going to surprise you. I'm not going to apologize for you opening a thread that obviously would contain content you don't agree with.

Never started the debate. :)
 


Never started the debate. :)

You kept it going, though. Everybody and their dog knows what lies in a thread like this. I'm reminded of W.C. Fields when seeing people who seem incredulous at what they find in an obviously labeled thread. "Who put pineapple juice in my pineapple juice?!"
 


You kept it going, though. Everybody and their dog knows what lies in a thread like this. I'm reminded of W.C. Fields when seeing people who seem incredulous at what they find in an obviously labeled thread. "Who put pineapple juice in my pineapple juice?!"

I made a comment that bothered you so you quoted me, that kicked off the back n forth. If only you had left my comments be, had that happened we wouldn't still be going back and forth. Nice try though TM.. :)

One thing I've learned from other threads your pretty hard headed with your stances and that is fine. Take Care TM. I will be moving on. I have no issues with you and do for the most part like what you bring to the site.
 
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