WILL IOWA START A HOCKEY PROGRAM?



sioux34 said:
Hey, dont be grouping North Dakota with those other schools. The only reason wiscy and minny left the WCHA to join the BoneG hockey conference was to quit losing to the Sioux.
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I don't know the deets, but I don't doubt it. NoDak has a very legit hockey program and I don't mean to disrespect them. I just don't want to see Iowa get trucked by them for 2 decades.
 


I also don't see the CR hockey fans supporting an Iowa college hockey program. Having been to my share of Rider games, I can tell you the average fan is there to drink beer and watch a fight. Since an Iowa team would not allow beer sales and they took nearly all of the fighting out of college hockey, they won't be getting what they are used to.
 


okeefe4prez said:
I shudder to think of seeing Iowa constantly losing in anything to Mankato State, UM Duluth and North Dakota and that is exactly what would happen in hockey.
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I can't argue with the rest of your quote, but there is nothing embarrassing about losing to ND and UMD in hockey they have won National Championships this century, 2011 and 2000.
 


sioux34 said:
I also don't see the CR hockey fans supporting an Iowa college hockey program. Having been to my share of Rider games, I can tell you the average fan is there to drink beer and watch a fight. Since an Iowa team would not allow beer sales and they took nearly all of the fighting out of college hockey, they won't be getting what they are used to.
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This is a great point which I was about to make.
 


HawkinGoferLand said:
I can't argue with the rest of your quote, but there is nothing embarrassing about losing to ND and UMD in hockey they have won National Championships this century, 2011 and 2000.
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Yeah, I know they're good in hockey. But here's the thing - I don't want to lose to them in anything and playing them would be a house of pain for my team, so I'd rather chicken out.
 




HawkinGoferLand said:
This is a great point which I was about to make.
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I will third that point. The first time I ever drove (before I got my permit) was this one morning my dad needed to go somewhere after going to a Bucs game the night before but he was still way too drunk to drive. Hit the neighbor's mailbox while driving a 1990 Mercury Sable. I would guess that 80% of the cars pulling out of a Bucs game are DUI.
 


ssckelley said:
Why couldn't they sell beer? The venue is off campus and in an arena that has a liquor license.
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Oh wait, so they would have to play in Cedar Rapids? Yeah, that sounds awesome for the Iowa students and fans. We could be the DePaul basketball of NCAA hockey. That would be awesome.
 




sioux34 said:
I guess the number one party school in the country should sell beer at all their events.
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It was an honest question, didn't they used to sell beer at the Metrodome when the Gophers played there? I could have swore I seen fans with beers during bowl games, maybe they snuck them in.

This is a different debate but not selling it is not keeping anybody from drinking anyway. I enjoy watching people pull out flasks during football games at Kinnick.
 


Selling beer at u of I sporting events sort of goes against current university policy. I don't think doing so at an off campus venue (which does not exist) would change that.
 


sioux34 said:
The only difference is i dont think there are high level field hockey programs in any high schools. It is just a made up sport designed to fill gender equity programs.
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Because Title IX was around in 1908, when field hockey was part of the Olympics.
 


sioux34 said:
Selling beer at u of I sporting events sort of goes against current university policy. I don't think doing so at an off campus venue (which does not exist) would change that.
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They sold beer at the NIU-Iowa game at Soldier. However, the Big Ten Tourney a few years back did not have beer for sale. I was so angry.
 


tm3308 said:
Because Title IX was around in 1908, when field hockey was part of the Olympics.
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Look jr. You have this backwards. If not for title IX, there would not have been any college field hockey since it's hay day in those 1908 olympics.
 


sioux34 said:
Look jr. You have this backwards. If not for title IX, there would not have been any college field hockey since it's hay day in those 1908 olympics.
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False. I'm sure the 7 Sisters or some other group of elite colleges might still have it, but it would not be a scholarship sport, and I use the term "sport" loosely. However, the more I think about this, the more I like the hockey idea. Curling is an Olympic "sport" and we could prolly leverage a hockey facility for some curling games, so I guess now I want hockey provided that curling is part of the deal. We should win the national title every year.
 


sioux34 said:
Look jr. You have this backwards. If not for title IX, there would not have been any college field hockey since it's hay day in those 1908 olympics.
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The bottom line is that they didn't just make something up when Title IX was passed, no more than they made up volleyball in an effort to comply with the law.

It's not a midwestern sport, but there are plenty of good high school programs on the east coast, which is where Iowa gets nearly all of its players.
 


The fact that the first ncaa championship was in 1981 tells me title IX had everything to do with reviving a dead sport.
 


tm3308 said:
The bottom line is that they didn't just make something up when Title IX was passed, no more than they made up volleyball in an effort to comply with the law.

It's not a midwestern sport, but there are plenty of good high school programs on the east coast, which is where Iowa gets nearly all of its players.
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Of course they didn't just make them up, but the viability of either a volleyball or field hockey program on an intercollegiate level is strictly a construct of Title IX. Basically, a bunch of administrators looked at a bunch of "sports" and picked a handful to offer scholarships in for women to comply with Title IX. Rowing is another example of such a "sport." Perhaps Sioux misspoke above and rather than calling the "sport" of field hockey made up, he should have said that demand for it is "made up" or called it "artificially subsidized" or something. Point is, no one other than these athletes, their families and the lowest guy on the totem pole at the Daily Iowan sports desk gives two craps about any of these artificially propped up "sports" that exist for no reason other than Title IX compliance.
 


Iowa has to offer womens field hockey to offset the amount of scholarships they award for wrestling.
 


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