Woodbury Nation

WindsorHawk said:
Here are Gabe and Woody's combined stats.

32.2 minutes
12.3 points
9.4 rebounds
50.0 FG% (both have made 46 FGs)
71.4 FT%
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If their average was our team average, we would score 76.4 points per game. That's pretty close to where we are at. I would say they're holding their own.
 
HawkPrdatr40 said:
It won't hurt Woody one bit for him to sit and watch Olaseni do his thing.. Fact is this Iowa team is better suited and is just flat out better with Gabe in the lineup. Woody 's time will come.
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The plus/minus stat in non conference is pretty much even between the two. But in conference the plus/minus stat favors woody by a decent amount.

woody - all games is +7, conference is +4.4

olaseni - all games is +7.3, conference is 0

so that stat actually disagrees with your assessment as it says that as a team we outs core our opponent on average more when woody is in the game.

there is a FACT for you.
 
JHHawk said:
Woody is playing very well right now...so is Gabe. Fran said that Gabe prefers coming off the bench, which works well for our team. Our centers will have their work cut out for them in coming games:

1. Willams of OSU is a solid big man.
2. Morgan/Horford are good.
3. Hammons is the best 7fter in the league.
4. Vonleh of IU is a top ten pick next spring, and the best big man in the league, imo.
5. Jack/Dickerson are a good duo for PSU...Jack can shoot it from the arc, and Dickerson is a true 7fter.
6. Minny's big men duo of Elliason and Walker are huge, and playing well.
7.. Payne will return by the time Iowa goes to MSU.

No gimmes in this league,and Woody/Gabe must be ready!
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I don't think Amir Williams is that good. He will have trouble vs. Iowa tomorrow night (again).
 
Tierney said:
I think by the time he is a junior the offense will run through Woodbury, Olesani, and White. They will have other guys that can score too, but they should be pretty powerfull on the inside.
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The offense will run through gesell next yr and his senior yr. watch for him to really elevate his game when marble is gone. Though I expect woody to become much more important in the offense too.
 
ssckelley said:
You have to be able to watch the game away from the ball to appreciate how well Woodbury is playing. The screens he sets, the defense he plays while does not show up as sexy statistics plays a big part in how successful Iowa is on the court. I mentioned this in another thread but that awesome ally-oop in the first half to White was set up by Woodbury screening the guy that was defending White.

I think Iowa is real fortunate to have both Olaseni and Woodbury at the center position.
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Yeah, way to many basketball novices who dont understsnad what Adam brings on the defensive end and dont notice how often Gabe is messing up on defense.

I like em both and they both have very different strengths and weaknesses.

Next year they will probably play some at the same time.
 
Foval21 said:
The plus/minus stat in non conference is pretty much even between the two. But in conference the plus/minus stat favors woody by a decent amount.

woody - all games is +7, conference is +4.4

olaseni - all games is +7.3, conference is 0

so that stat actually disagrees with your assessment as it says that as a team we outs core our opponent on average more when woody is in the game.

there is a FACT for you.
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That isn't really surprising tho considering Woody spends more time with the starters.
 
RocknRollface said:
Yeah, way to many basketball novices who dont understsnad what Adam brings on the defensive end and dont notice how often Gabe is messing up on defense.
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It works both ways Rock and ssckelley. I see plenty of things BOTH can work on and don't do.. Honestly I see it in many of the players not just Gabe and Woody..

Gabe and Woody both bring intangibles that help the team. I just prefer Gabe more right now, I think the team looks much better with him on the court. Just how I feel..
 
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Once woody gets up to 6.6 boards per game he'll be ranked 250th nationally. Only needs to add about 3 per game!!
 
PCHawk said:
That isn't really surprising tho considering Woody spends more time with the starters.
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This is true but I will also use it to further my opinion that marble is better not being the pg as he is usually the pg when gabe is in and in conference we are just breaking even when gabe is in the game. I say more gesell and woody. But I think both woody and gabe should play as much as possible. I truly believe their minutes should be 20 for woody and 18 for gabe on average. The 2 min left over at center should be for basabe in a lineup that is small and tries to run at the end of the 1st half.
 
Here are two links that could help in your comparison of Gabe and Woody:
Gabriel Olaseni | Iowa Hawkeyes | Stats, Pictures, News | College Basketball | FOX Sports on MSN
Adam Woodbury | Iowa Hawkeyes | Stats, Pictures, News | College Basketball | FOX Sports on MSN

Gabe has scored 19 more points than Woody. Using ibahawkeye as a reference, Gabe has also scored at least 20 more FTs than Woody. There's your point differential: FTs.
Gabe has 119 rebounds. Woody has 87 rebounds.
There's a big difference between Gabe and Woody: rebounding.
I deliberately omitted post defense and offensive capability 'cause I beat them to death in another thread.

Another deciding difference between Woody and Gabe: IMO, center toughness. Gabe gets more rebounds and gets fouled more often. It's not because he gets more blocks or has an English accent.

Maybe Woody should be a Ralph-Sampson-of-The-University-Of-Virginia-like 4 until he gets tougher in the post position. Lord knows Iowa could sure use a truer 4 on their team.

ibahawkeye said:
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Gabe has shot 75 in comparison to Adam's 47 free throw attempts but I was surprised to see Gabe is shooting 71% and Adam is shooting 72%.

I expected Gabe to have a much higher % than woody.
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ssckelley said:
I think that is an easy question to answer, Fran stayed with the hot hand/lineup.
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Careful Kelley...only supposed to talk about poor use of timeouts and Olaseni being our best center when discussing the Illinois game. This hot hand thing makes a little too much sense.
 
WindsorHawk said:
Careful Kelley...only supposed to talk about poor use of timeouts and Olaseni being our best center when discussing the Illinois game. This hot hand thing makes a little too much sense.
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Wait . . . are these the same people that were dividing up minutes and then saying that Fran should stay with the hot hand in the 2nd half? . . .
 
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