Without Hubbard, Iowa's PG spot has question marks

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Justin VanLaere
Sure, Devyn can play point and so can Oglesby, but Hubbard would have been a nice option at the 1 when Cartwright needed a blow.

Depth at guard will be an issue this season.
 
I don't know Spank...I didn't see a ton of Oglesby in high school, but what I did see it didn't seem to me like he was PG material, especially not as a true freshman. I'm not saying he couldn't do it, but it just didn't seem like he had that sort of game.

It also could have been the offense Wash ran...they didn't really need him to be the point because they had Washpun (hmm...being able to get him wouldn't seem like such a bad consolation prize now).

I pretty much see Cartwright and then Marble...
 
No doubt. I think it is a pretty stupid move by Hubbard. Really think there is more to it than Homesickness. I mean how can you really get homesick after spending 4 years in the slammer.
Feel bad for McCaffery but I guess he was a wildcard from the start.
 
Fran gambled a bit on recruiting a backup pg,and clearly lost that gamble when Washpun went to Tenn. and Hubbard bailed. Hubbard was the best of our options,and now it falls to Devyn,who really is not suited to handle it for more than a few minutes in a crunch. Losing Cezar,then Payne,then Washpun,then Hubbard...what is it with pgs at Iowa?
 
Two things you never want to get overly excited about as a Hawkeye fan...running backs and point guards. :)
 
Truly a strange day, as I agree 100% with CaarHawk, which could be a first. I am a Fran fan, but he better walk back his "I don't panic" quote if he doesn't step up the recruiting. With Hubbard's departure we are guaranteed to have another sub 15 win season and close to last place finish in the big ten. We don't pursue Washpun, Glover and others to take a shot on a kid who can't last 5 weeks in IC.

No excuse for not getting another PG in here with a high risk kid like Hubbard being our only buffer. No way in hell it is about homesick unless Hubbard is the biggest pud ever to spend time inside.
 
It was a giant mistake by Fran. No question about it. You don't leave open scholarships when you are rebuilding and have a glaring hole at the PG position.
 
Turn up the heat? No excuse for not getting another PG? Giant mistake?
Obviously, we have no idea yet what really transpired with Hubbard leaving...but to jump on Fran about recruiting, again, is simply a joke. Yes Fran took a risk with Hubbard, but we will probably find out he left for a reason not posted yet and it my guess also is that is will be completely unrelated to any suspicions reported at this point.
For Iowa to grant him a complete release with zero restrictions speaks volumes. The problem I have with this is the amount of time that Iowa put into him to get him on campus, for essentially, nothing.
Whatever the reason he is gone, it has nothing to do with Fran's ability or inability to recruit. The fact that Iowa was still recruiting for next season in Spring means your options are fairly limited. The only mistake Fran and staff made was believing this kid was going to be around for two full years.
Marble playing the point is not the worst thing in the world, the ball handling experience that he is getting and able to show his baskeball IQ are only going to help him when he can play the wing full time. Maybe he doesn't end up back as a wing, in the end, ever think of that? Time and time again, I have posted that Marble would have been a redshirt in any normal year. Marble played full-time PG his Senior year in HS and improved in every category by being there. Marble lacked the strength last year to make a real impact, thus he would have been best to take a year to do that and develop his shooting more. There have been some other taller and lankier players that have worked out just fine as PG's. I am less worried about the PG position heading into this season, than the past few. To say, we are dead in the water if Cartwright gets hurt...well duh...aren't most teams pretty much dead in the water if they lose not just their PG, but one of their top two players? You cannot recruit scared and just sign some kid as a backup PG that will only be a backup player. Sadly, when Spring came around that is about what was out there and recruiting out of panic is something Fran has shown he doesn't do.
On a positive note, this opens up a potentially third scholarship for 2013, not the worst thing in the world. Iowa has to rebuild, but they aren't as bad off today as they were a year ago, even with Hubbard's departure.
 
Marble did well backing Bryce last year, Sportstalent, especially the Purdue game for most of the second half. Others will learn to fill in. I agree about not settling for someone just to fill the roster. Fran wants players that will fit his system and have the talent and athleticism to do so, along with wanting to be a Hawkeye more that Hubbard did.
 
Sportstalent, are you serious? How many teams only have one PG for starters? Payne leaving should have resulted in the signing of another pure PG, period. If McCaffrey had addressed that glaring need, then fine, go roll the dice on Hubbard, but don't count on him to be a 1-3 guy.

I thought McCaffrey knew what he was doing, but with Hubbard's departure, I am more than mildly concerned. He HAD to be 100% this kid was going to contribute and he whiffed. Basically he has HAS to have a monster recruiting class next year or we are talking about a 5 year rebuild and more down years for Iowa hoops.
 
hawkIhoops said:
Sportstalent, are you serious? How many teams only have one PG for starters? Payne leaving should have resulted in the signing of another pure PG, period. If McCaffrey had addressed that glaring need, then fine, go roll the dice on Hubbard, but don't count on him to be a 1-3 guy.

I thought McCaffrey knew what he was doing, but with Hubbard's departure, I am more than mildly concerned. He HAD to be 100% this kid was going to contribute and he whiffed. Basically he has HAS to have a monster recruiting class next year or we are talking about a 5 year rebuild and more down years for Iowa hoops.
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Look lets be realistic here. Does Iowa have a depth issue at PG...yes, but is it any worse than last season? The short answer is no and Marble has experience that he didn't have last year, Bryce has experience that he didn't have last year. It is one thing to be concerned about depth when you have no proven commodities and Iowa has players that have proven themselves. Cartwrigth, barring any injury will just lead the league in minutes played and hopefully, that is how he has been preparing himself. We aren't talking about Iowa have a couple freshman only at this spot.
I can't put this on Fran until, if we ever find out why Hubbard left. In all honesty, him leaving now doesn't sting as say leaving after he played a full season and was a major contributor.
A 5 year rebuild project may not be out of the question, but without Hubbard that doesn't turn it into one. Iowa has to have a good class come in since the PG is a Senior, it is pretty simple. It will not surprise me to see Iowa get one pure PG on the roster and then a combo guard with a lot of PG experience as well. I guess when I look at it, the Iowa roster is better today than a year ago with the players that have been added and now Iowa will have some real depth and added shooting. The 2012 class is the one everyone has been anticipating for a long time anyway, so there is a lot of pressure from fans anyway to think Iowa has to have a monster class. Add three more players with Meyer and run with it, I will be shocked if Iowa adds any more than that, unless someone falls into their lap unexpectedly.
 
The roster is better than last year? Really? I don't see a player who can step in at the post and fill Cole's shoes.

I think there is better depth, but the three remaining players all need significant development. So, you are replacing a valuable starter with three reserves that play positions where Iowa already has some depth.

You think Iowa isn't going to get creamed by their lack of interior defense?
 
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