Will Beathard have a big season?

guffus

guffus

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It seems like CJ Beathard has been gradually building towards a potential record breaking season for the last 4 years.

Is he poised to go out in a story book ending like Chuck Long's last season?

Or will he be like Stanzi and have great stats but not as many wins

OR will he be like JVB and severely regress his senior season?

I have seen the early Heisman favorite lists and CJB is not on any of them. I agree he is not going to win the Heisman, but I think he will have a big season and Iowa will too. Not 12-0, but still something pretty good like 10-2 There are still plenty of players around that remember Iowa's mediocre seasons. They will show up with the proper attitude and here is the best part. The coaches will finally open up the offense and Iowa will average over 35 points a games.
 


JVB had the misfortune his second year of playing under a new system, Coach Davis's first year. It is pretty obvious that Davis scaled back the implementation of his system and accommodated Ferentz's style of play. Other than that, I don't agree with the sense that Iowa quarterbacks have severely regressed unless you want to count Tate's injury year in 2006 when he tore his pectoral muscle.
 
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I think he's more than capable of it. I would argue he's the most talented overall QB Iowa has had in the KF era. It will come down to his health, and the emergence of some playmakers at WR. He'll need some help stretching the field in order to have a big season. I'm not entirely convinced they have the weapons necessary in order to take advantage of him at QB.

We know what Vandeberg brings to the table. He's a great possession receiver who will probably exceed his numbers from last year. That's a big step in the right direction. Other than him though some other guys will need to step up. Scheel, McCarron, and J. Smith need to make plays.
 


Agree, he's capable. My concern is his health. He got hurt in spring drills, and he was hurt from the Pitt game and on. Part of it is him playing smarter. He is prone to injury, so he needs to realize he can't go all out like he does. Appreciate his effort, and so do his teammates, but we'll only go as far as he does.

The WR are also an issue. Vandy is a nice possession WR, and will probably put up similar numbers as last year. I don't know who else steps up.
 


DP5555 said:
I think he's more than capable of it. I would argue he's the most talented overall QB Iowa has had in the KF era. It will come down to his health, and the emergence of some playmakers at WR. He'll need some help stretching the field in order to have a big season. I'm not entirely convinced they have the weapons necessary in order to take advantage of him at QB.

We know what Vandeberg brings to the table. He's a great possession receiver who will probably exceed his numbers from last year. That's a big step in the right direction. Other than him though some other guys will need to step up. Scheel, McCarron, and J. Smith need to make plays.
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That's it in a nutshell... He'll have to throw it to do all that so who's catching it.. Well I suspect Vandeberg will put up similar numbers to this last year. Nothing too crazy or much more then what he did anyway. The only other name I'd add to your list is Kittle. I like the 3 some of J Smith Scheel and Vandeberg I think they can compliment each others games well if they can just develop. If the Oline is playing well allowing them to run it like last yr then play action will only make CJ as dangerous as any Iowa QBs ever been...
 




It all depends on if we can protect him.If he gets knocked down like last year he won't make it all year.It would be nice to see a healthy CJ light it up for his senior year.
 


GrandpaHawk said:
It all depends on if we can protect him.If he gets knocked down like last year he won't make it all year.It would be nice to see a healthy CJ light it up for his senior year.
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Agree. The delayed blitz, by opposing MLBs going around the guard and the center, really took it's toll on CJ. BF is going to have to figure out some sort of pivot thing for the left guard which will require great play by that guard and the center. Line play is supposed to be an Iowa strength and I hope the Ferentzs figure it out for CJ's sake.
 
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Yes, the pass pro blocking must improve. Especially since Iowa doesn't have the two very experience fullbacks to help out the way they did last year.
 


guffus said:
It seems like CJ Beathard has been gradually building towards a potential record breaking season for the last 4 years.

Is he poised to go out in a story book ending like Chuck Long's last season?

Or will he be like Stanzi and have great stats but not as many wins

OR will he be like JVB and severely regress his senior season?

I have seen the early Heisman favorite lists and CJB is not on any of them. I agree he is not going to win the Heisman, but I think he will have a big season and Iowa will too. Not 12-0, but still something pretty good like 10-2 There are still plenty of players around that remember Iowa's mediocre seasons. They will show up with the proper attitude and here is the best part. The coaches will finally open up the offense and Iowa will average over 35 points a games.
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Eh?

"Stanzi posted 26-9 record as starting quarterback (74%) and won all 3 bowls, which is only the 3rd Big 10 QB to have such honor. Additionally, Stanzi also had unprecedented success against ranked opponents winning all 3 games vs top 5 ranked teams and having a 6-3 record vs. ranked opponents in his 3 year career. Notable wins include going 3-0 over legendary coach Joe Paterno of Penn State and 3-0 over Kirk Cousins of Michigan State."
 


Pass-protection that keeps CJ off his back and healthy, a running game that has the ability to overwhelm some opponents and receivers who get separation and hang onto the ball will mean the difference between a decent year and one for the record books.
 


depends on the OL. Running game can't disappear in the 2nd half of the season like last year. A WR needs to become an actual deep threat. If those things happen it'll help keep him upright and healthy.
 


I believe the CJB we saw in the ISU game is the real CJB. He made NFL type throws in that game, he made big plays with his feet that game. Granted it was just Iowa St. I think that type of skill set is what he brings to the table when he is healthy.

I was listening to Pat Harty on a local radio station and he made the point that several others have made as well and it has to do with being inaccurate with the intermediate passes. I noticed it, also.......I kinda looked the other way, didn't make a big deal about it. It is definitely an issue that needs to be cleaned up.
 




Seth53 said:
Eh?

"Stanzi posted 26-9 record as starting quarterback (74%) and won all 3 bowls, which is only the 3rd Big 10 QB to have such honor. Additionally, Stanzi also had unprecedented success against ranked opponents winning all 3 games vs top 5 ranked teams and having a 6-3 record vs. ranked opponents in his 3 year career. Notable wins include going 3-0 over legendary coach Joe Paterno of Penn State and 3-0 over Kirk Cousins of Michigan State."
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I guess my main point was that Stanzi's stats got better his senior season but Iowa's win-loss record got worse. That could also happen to CJB.
 






guffus said:
I guess my main point was that Stanzi's stats got better his senior season but Iowa's win-loss record got worse. That could also happen to CJB.
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Some will say Stanzi was better in '09 than he was '10, obviously the stats say otherwise. That 2010 season people were saying that there were guys open down the field and he took the safe route with the check down stuff. I do not know i watched all the games on the tube that year.
 


trj said:
Some will say Stanzi was better in '09 than he was '10, obviously the stats say otherwise. That 2010 season people were saying that there were guys open down the field and he took the safe route with the check down stuff. I do not know i watched all the games on the tube that year.
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That may be true. Of course, an exception was the turning point in the 2010 NW game, when Stanzi tried to go deep and was intercepted. He was essentially going for the kill with a 2 score lead. Then NW ended up scoring twice to come back and win.

Which was the real problem in 2010. Iowa's defense could not make key stops on 3rd and 4th down late in games. Plus Iowa's offense could not put away the other team when it had a lead in the 4th.
 


I'm not convinced we need CJ to put up big numbers to win. I'm sure the goal is to win the West and with our 1-2 punch in the running game with Wadley/Daniels (yes in that order, never mind that's a different thread).

Defense will do their part. We may not have any aspect of the team that is really great but hopefully we're pretty darn good at all aspects and a balance team.
 


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