Why Iowa Won't Win The B1G

HomerChampless said:
I'm an Iowa fan. I'm not a polyannaish Iowa fan. I don't go half cocked about Iowa's chances.. in football or basketball.

Iowa can't get there unless faults are acknowledged and corrected. Isn't that kinda like an AAA credo?
Oherwise, it's just a lot of hope. Why not say I hope Iowa wins. I say that. I know things have to change, however.
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Every time you post in this thread you look more ridiculous. Quit while you're way behind. I won't bother critiquing the details...other posters are doing just fine.
 
HomerChampless said:
Bilas hasn't analyzed the facts, then. Ask Dickie V. what he thinks. Someone during a TV game asked Vitale who were contending teams for the B1G title and he didn't even mention Iowa. (neither did the play by play guy).
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HomerChampless said:
So, what did Vitale say during the TV broadcast of the game about Wisconsin and tOSU, hawkfan33?
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You obviously watched the game too, you tell me you stupid piece of ****?
 
hawkfan33 said:
Again, Vitale mentioned OSU as a team that could make the Final Four LOL. That pretty much voids you using him as a solid analyst.
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I'm saying MOST analysts aren't dependable 'cause MOST don't do the research. Or watch most of the games.

Some of you guys are banking a lot on what Bilas tweeted about Iowa being a great team. If he'd seen and analyzed Iowa basketball this season as much as I've seen and analyzed Iowa basketball this season, he wouldn't of come to the great team conclusion.
 
HomerChampless said:
Some Iowa players play outside of themselves. They don't let the game come to them, they try to make the proverbial play that brings CHA down.

Players that play outside of their abilities. (1) McCabe (maybe 'cause Fran keeps putting him into a position to fail). (2) Marble. You can count on Marble taking the shot to either win or lose the game for Iowa. Invariably, Marble misses. IMO, Marble isn't a go-to-guy when the pressure is on the line for Iowa. Make Marble a decoy. Let the other team bring all their players in to guard Marble while he passes the ball to a wide open teammate and gets the assist. Unfortunately, this action is, IMO, outside of Marble's character, 'cause he likes to hog the ball in pressure situations. I wonder if those assists in big plays would damage Marble's psyche. Maybe that's too harsh of an assessment of Marble, but that would make Iowa a more successful team. (3) Uthoff's outside shot has been poor lately, so he's tried the inside. Uthoff gets stuffed on the inside. (4) Basabe (maybe 'cause Fran keeps putting him into a position to fail). (5) Oglesby. His outside shot, while desperately needed, is becoming erratic. Are opponents cringing when Oglesby shoots, or are they starting their fast break?

White has learned to play within himself. He drives to the basket and takes the occasional outside shot when the opponent isn't guarding him at all. The two centers have learned to play within themselves... The centers need to be in the game as much as possible. Gesell and Clemmons play within themselves.

Then there's the head coach. He puts some players in that causes Iowa to fail, and he gets those temper tantrum technicals.

Oh, oh, and the free throw shooting is horrendous..
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So much failure in this post I seriously don't know where to start. I Love that you can hammer 5 guys (4 since Basabe's made absolutely no sense) for playing within themselves and not letting the game come to them and pick everyone apart but I found it incredibly ironic that Oglesby has become erattic yet in the very next paragraph you say White has learned to play within himself.

Please explain this further, because the way I'm reading this your praise White for disappearing a great deal of the game and calling it playing within himself, yet blasting teammates for not letting the game come to them and I'm assuming forcing things? Interesting that a player who according to most has been under performing is praised yet players who are trying to do to much get criticized.
 
HomerChampless said:
I'm saying MOST analysts aren't dependable 'cause MOST don't do the research. Or watch most of the games.

Some of you guys are banking a lot on what Bilas tweeted about Iowa being a great team. If he'd seen and analyzed Iowa basketball this season as much as I've seen and analyzed Iowa basketball this season, he wouldn't of come to the great team conclusion.
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So despite the very Bilas tweet you are referencing mentioning how he had watched every Iowa game since December you are assuming he didn't do any research but Dicky V who gave a list of B10 contenders off the top of his head during a game had done much more research? You are one dumb mother****er.
 
HomerChampless said:
You don't know, then. So, how do you know that Dickie V. mentioned tOSU and Wisconsin?
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Ha so you didn't even watch the game, you don't even know if Dickie V didn't mention Iowa. Unless you can give me the entire Dickie V response word for word I know you're full of ****.
 
My OP will infuriate a polyannaish Iowa basketball fan like you,kicker22. Can't say everything nice? So, I shouldn't say anything at all?
 
So Bilas (the best college analyst in many peoples opinion) endorses the hawkeyes after watching their games and that means nothing, yet the caricature Vitale doesn't endorse the hawkeyes and probably hasn't watched a whole game yet you eat it up.
 
HomerChampless said:
My OP will infuriate a polyannaish Iowa basketball fan like you,kicker22. Can't say everything nice? So, I shouldn't say anything at all?
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The discrepancies are not with mean or nice, They are with smart or dumb. Your opinions seem to fall in the latter category.
 
guys, he's a troll. don't try to reason with him. i've never seen him post a single positive thing about the iowa program on this site, football included. how he's still allowed to post here is beyond me.

don't get too worked up over anything he says
 
HomerChampless said:
My OP will infuriate a polyannaish Iowa basketball fan like you,kicker22. Can't say everything nice? So, I shouldn't say anything at all?
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Infuriate? Not hardly. Like I said I'm just trying to figure out your stance. Didn't see how people get criticized for tring to do to much yet it's considered "playing within himself" and a free pass when White fails to show up until the end of the game. Just found it really odd. My appoligies for being a "polyannaish fan". Whatever that means. Troll on.
 
Good Lord....I can't believe I'm going to respond to this, but here goes.

First off, Dickie V is a caricature these days.....someone that ESPN throws out there as a known commodity because it makes people feel all warm and fuzzy. That's it. The guy hasn't watched game film or analyzed a team outside of Durham, NC in about 15 years. Jay Bilas, the most well-respected and knowlegable basketball analyst today has watched every single one of our games since December. He's commented on our offense....how it's predicated on "unpredictable" cuts and curls and screening action rather than "pre-meditated" motion....and how that's more difficult to prepare for. He's talked about specific players on our team and the different nuances in their game. The guy knows us and he knows basketball and wasn't and isn't afraid to say that we're one of the best teams out there. But you keeep relying on Mr. Warm and Fuzzy and the rest of us will listen to the guy who knows his stuff.

Second, every team in college basketball today has warts. There are no 1990 UNLV teams out there. There are no early/mid 90's Duke teams out there. There's no early 2000's UConn teams out there. There isn't a team out there right now that doesn't have some sort of deficiency. Iowa's biggest one, late game free throw shooting, has unfortunately come out to bite them in some pretty big games. But at the end of the day, we are sitting at 3rd in the B1G and if we can manage to finish at least that high, it will mark only the 4th time in the last 20 years that we've managed to finish that high. So it's not like it's an Iowa birthright or something that we finish in the Top 3 of the conference. It's something to be celebrated and it's something you probably should learn to enjoy because seasons like this only come around about once ever 5-6 years.

Finally, it's not "polyanish" to want to enjoy a season like this and accept the Hawks for what they are....a long, athletic basketball team that hustles, works hard and plays their tales off every game, that can hang with any team in the country and beat any team in the country, that is ranked in the top 20 in just about every offensive category and in the top 30 in every defensive category, but unfortunately has issues with late game free throws.

Sit back and enjoy the ride, dude. It's been fun so far and with February and March approaching, will only get more fun!

Go Hawks!
 
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