Who will be 5th

sportstalent

sportstalent

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In all these postings about who will lead Iowa in scoring and fans worried about recruiting for the next season. It seems that everyone is counting this season as lost, but there is something that has been on my mind.
Who will be the 5th starter or will there be more than one new starter? I think, most people will say Melsahn Basabe, but will it be a surprise?

PG-Cully Payne
SG-Matt Gatens
SF-Eric May
PF-?
C-Jarryd Cole

Pencil in Cole at either PF/C spot depending on who that last starter is.
If memory serves me correctly the players left are: Melsahn Basabe, Bryce Cartwright, Zach McCabe, Roy Marble Jr, Andrew Brommer and Devon Archie
 
I'd be nice to get Cole to his natural 5 spot sometime before he graduates, but that's not going to happen with Cougill now ineligible... unless Brommer really explodes the next 3 months or something. :eek:

Right now it looks like Melsahn is the leading candidate.
 
Get the freshmen in the game as much as possible. Let those kids take their lumps and learn what it takes to play in the Big Ten.

If all things were equal, I would say that Cartwright, Marble, and Basabe have about an equal chance to be starters by the end of the season. However, the holes in the front line just make Basabe too much the obvious choice. Beyond Cole, there is no one on Iowa's front line that should really be sniffing significant playing time in a major conference, or possibly even D -1.
 
CAARHawk said:
Get the freshmen in the game as much as possible. Let those kids take their lumps and learn what it takes to play in the Big Ten.

If all things were equal, I would say that Cartwright, Marble, and Basabe have about an equal chance to be starters by the end of the season. However, the holes in the front line just make Basabe too much the obvious choice. Beyond Cole, there is no one on Iowa's front line that should really be sniffing significant playing time in a major conference, or possibly even D -1.
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I think that is a bit harsh. Are any of them going to play at Duke? No But to say May, Gatens or Cully wouldn't play D-1 is silly.
 
CAARHawk said:
Get the freshmen in the game as much as possible. Let those kids take their lumps and learn what it takes to play in the Big Ten.

If all things were equal, I would say that Cartwright, Marble, and Basabe have about an equal chance to be starters by the end of the season. However, the holes in the front line just make Basabe too much the obvious choice. Beyond Cole, there is no one on Iowa's front line that should really be sniffing significant playing time in a major conference, or possibly even D -1.
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coonhawk said:
I think that is a bit harsh. Are any of them going to play at Duke? No But to say May, Gatens or Cully wouldn't play D-1 is silly.
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Cully, May, and Gatens aren't in the frontcourt.
 
CAARHawk said:
Get the freshmen in the game as much as possible. Let those kids take their lumps and learn what it takes to play in the Big Ten.

If all things were equal, I would say that Cartwright, Marble, and Basabe have about an equal chance to be starters by the end of the season. However, the holes in the front line just make Basabe too much the obvious choice. Beyond Cole, there is no one on Iowa's front line that should really be sniffing significant playing time in a major conference, or possibly even D -1.
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Okay...I am sorta confused...you say nobody other than Cole in the frontcourt is a D1 player, however you state that Basabe has an equal shot at starting.
So what is your point? Are you saying Basabe is not D1 material?
Brommer was recruited by other major conference teams, but that is part of recruiting...sometimes players don't pan out.
Duke has their misses, anyone remember Greg Newton or Micah Downs?
The reason some players stick out is because of all the players leaving over the past decade.
 
sportstalent said:
Okay...I am sorta confused...you say nobody other than Cole in the frontcourt is a D1 player, however you state that Basabe has an equal shot at starting.
So what is your point? Are you saying Basabe is not D1 material?
Brommer was recruited by other major conference teams, but that is part of recruiting...sometimes players don't pan out.
Duke has their misses, anyone remember Greg Newton or Micah Downs?
The reason some players stick out is because of all the players leaving over the past decade.
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Thats not his point. He's being optimistic in wanting to build on Basabe's potential. May be mistake to say not have significant playing time in any D1 school but how cant you get what he's saying? We're pretty weak there.
 
Brommer will step it up this year. He will be fine. He could have used a redshirt. He came on a little towards the end of the year. He will do better in a up and down system. He gets up and down the floor well. I think he is D1 material.
 
smhawk said:
Thats not his point. He's being optimistic in wanting to build on Basabe's potential. May be mistake to say not have significant playing time in any D1 school but how cant you get what he's saying? We're pretty weak there.
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Really? Iowa is weak in the frontcourt? If there was optimism about Basabe then Basabe should have been included with Cole in the same sentence.
I don,t see optimism, I see an unfair statement, we don't know anything about Brommer and Archie because Archie hasn't played a minute and Brommer's playing time has been erratic
Let's not go overboard...
 
CAARHawk said:
Get the freshmen in the game as much as possible. Let those kids take their lumps and learn what it takes to play in the Big Ten.

If all things were equal, I would say that Cartwright, Marble, and Basabe have about an equal chance to be starters by the end of the season. However, the holes in the front line just make Basabe too much the obvious choice. Beyond Cole, there is no one on Iowa's front line that should really be sniffing significant playing time in a major conference, or possibly even D -1.
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coonhawk said:
I think that is a bit harsh. Are any of them going to play at Duke? No But to say May, Gatens or Cully wouldn't play D-1 is silly.
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storminspank said:
Cully, May, and Gatens aren't in the frontcourt.
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coonhawk said:
Your point?
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CAARHawk isn't saying May, Cully, or Gatens wouldn't play D-1. He's saying that no one beside Cole in the front court would be getting significant PT in a major conf. So are you arguing that both Brommer and Archie would be seeing significant PT on a team in a major conference? Again, Gatens, Cully, and May aren't being discussed... I'm not trying to answer it for you, just trying to clarify the post.
 
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I tend to agree with Stormin for at least the first couple of games and then I actually see Cole perhaps coming off the bench if Fran & Co. can get Brommer's light bulb to more of a steady glow opposed to a flickering strobe light and Basabe shows that he is ready for the physical play of the big ten.
 
Is Brommer's improvement supplied with any evidence or is this just speculation/hoping that he has improved enough to be a factor. I think he has the tools to be a force as anybody with his size should but I just haven't seen it all put together yet. Brommer better step his game up because Basabe will be breathing down his neck for big minutes.
 
Gatens, May, Cole, Cully, Basabe start, with Brommer, Cartwright, Marble and McCabe get significant minutes. Archie will not be scholly player next year.

Fran will run, pressure and compete. You will see 10-12 players, way more than Lick ball.

May, Marble and Basabe are the athletes and Fram will use them. Cole will foul out of most games, Brommer gets plenty of time.

Tighter games hurt walk on minutes this year.
 
I apologize with May. I am too used to the 3 guard offense. When I was saying frontline, I was thinking power players. May is Big Ten material and will continue to improve. Still think he is more of a wing-guard than a traditional 3, but that doesn't excuse the oversight.

I was open to thinking the Brommer might be ready to contribute, but his PTL season pretty much sealed it for me. At his size with two years in a Big Ten program to have those stats against that competition?

We know the guys that have those numbers in PTL, they are high school or JC kids that are not getting D-1 scholarship offers, or Iowa kids playing D 2 or below.
 
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May is absolutely a wing, I would definitely not classify him as a frontcourt player... unless he has to play the 4 because of personnel.
 
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