What's so wrong with using the damn map
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HawkeyeDenis
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Remove OSU from the equation and the other 11 teams are very competitive, with Iowa, UW, UM, PSU, NW, UN fighting for the top spot.
However imagaine this scenerio, Joe Pa steps down, We lose Kirk to PSU. Then the east west balance falls apart.
However imagaine this scenerio, Joe Pa steps down, We lose Kirk to PSU. Then the east west balance falls apart.
Blackhawk33
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Delany will not make a geographical division. Why would he say he will base the split from '93 if he were going to do it geographically?
I think it is an unwise move, though.
He and other Big 10 masterminds need to LET GO OF THE PAST, and do what's best for the FUTURE of the Big 10. Michigan is no longer a powerhouse. IOWA and Wisconsin both have staying power. Northwestern, as much as the Chicago-haters don't want to admit it, is a rising star.
Split it geographically, Jim. 'Sippi River Side vs. Ohio River Side. Go 'Sippi Side!
I think it is an unwise move, though.
He and other Big 10 masterminds need to LET GO OF THE PAST, and do what's best for the FUTURE of the Big 10. Michigan is no longer a powerhouse. IOWA and Wisconsin both have staying power. Northwestern, as much as the Chicago-haters don't want to admit it, is a rising star.
Split it geographically, Jim. 'Sippi River Side vs. Ohio River Side. Go 'Sippi Side!
I don't think you can dismiss UM as a powerhouse and then in turn claim Iowa and Wisconsin have staying power when neither has been proven for more than a few years. If/when Jim Harbaugh takes over for RichRod after this year UM will once again be a force.
tm3308
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I agree. In case none of you noticed, Michigan still recruits very well. And they are TERRIBLE on the field right now. When they get a new coach, they are going to be back. DickRod was never a good choice. But they aren't going to simply stay down.
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
East/West makes the most sense.
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
Why wouldn't KF finish his career at Iowa?
HawkeyeDenis
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"Why wouldn't KF finish his career at Iowa? "
He is from Pa. And that (if you believe the rumors) is the one job he would leave Iowa for.
He is from Pa. And that (if you believe the rumors) is the one job he would leave Iowa for.
silvanthalas
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The problem remains that no matter how you divvy the teams up, parity may not reign. Big 12 North was strong for a bit, but now dominated by the South.
And just look at the pro leagues: AFC over NFC for the most part recently in the NFL, AL viewed as more dominate over NL in MLB, etc.
They can put PSU in the West Division based on historical data, but it doesn't guarantee squat for the future. And simply trying to readjust the divisions every few years would mean you're simply putting a band-aid on a gaping wound.
And just look at the pro leagues: AFC over NFC for the most part recently in the NFL, AL viewed as more dominate over NL in MLB, etc.
They can put PSU in the West Division based on historical data, but it doesn't guarantee squat for the future. And simply trying to readjust the divisions every few years would mean you're simply putting a band-aid on a gaping wound.
HawkeyeDenis
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One possibility I haven't seen explored is that if you use the geographic east/west lineup, with one out of division game.
LutherHawk
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Consider that, if the Big10 had a conference championship game in place, the 5 straight titles may not have panned out.
BSpringsteen
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The thing of it is, it is Iowa and Wisconsin that need to be split up if Penn State goes to the west.
They are both upper echelon teams that have competed for the league championship, and having two of them in the same league as Nebraska and Penn State will leave 4 out of 6 teams competing for the division. Compare that to the east...
They are both upper echelon teams that have competed for the league championship, and having two of them in the same league as Nebraska and Penn State will leave 4 out of 6 teams competing for the division. Compare that to the east...
LutherHawk
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Ummmm....what rumors?
According to someone QUITE close to KF, this 'rumor' has no merit.
There is a big difference between speculation and rumor.
HawkeyeDenis
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Ummmm....what rumors?
According to someone QUITE close to KF, this 'rumor' has no merit.
There is a big difference between speculation and rumor.
I hope your right. Can't think of a better coach, better person for Iowa. I had heard that KF has a out clause if the Penn job opens. I had also heard that he was staying until his kids were out of school.
According to someone QUITE close to KF, this 'rumor' has no merit.
There is a big difference between speculation and rumor.
I hope your right. Can't think of a better coach, better person for Iowa. I had heard that KF has a out clause if the Penn job opens. I had also heard that he was staying until his kids were out of school.
LutherHawk
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No way am I calling the West division 'Sippi Side'. Can you immasculate a division any more than that? Great, the 'Sippi Side' can compete for the 'Sippi Cup'...really, do we want that nickname?
HawkeyeDenis
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"No way am I calling the West division 'Sippi Side'. Can you immasculate a division any more than that? Great, the 'Sippi Side' can compete for the 'Sippi Cup'...really, do we want that nickname? "
Good catch! Definatly don't want that!
Good catch! Definatly don't want that!
