What is wrong with you?

[1977Hawkeye]

Maybe, just maybe Kirk should have been focused on winning the game, not making the defensive unit "feel good".

Maybe, just maybe a smarter coach would see that his defense is completely out of gas and had not forced a punt since the second quarter, and tried to win the game with his offense instead of "hoping" the defense would suddenly turn it around or get lucky.

So tell me....which unit's confidence has gone up...the offense or the defense? I'd guess they both went DOWN.

I have no problem with putting the game in the hands of your defense.... When you have a comfortable lead AND you have a good defense.

But KF seems to have a 1-size-fits-all philospohy. Even if we had a great offense, and a poor defense, I still wonder if he would shut down the O and put the game in the hands of his D?

 

[SECisCRAP]

What is wrong with me? We just lost to ISU for the 7th time in 13 years.

I make no apologies to you, olddude, if I can't just say "Aw shucks, we lost a game. Well, that's football!" a day or two after the game. To be 6-7 against an in-state rival that has ZERO football tradition tends to frustrate me.

Maybe you should look past the last 13 years and consider the whole series? Iowa still leads 39-20.

 

[olddude]

You ever see those test where they run a motor wide open for as long as it will go? Funny how those test are before the motor goes into a car and is sold to the public. Face it, our D needs the most work and a high pressure, on the road, in OT, non-con, that has nothing to do with the ccg, is the place to find out just what you have and then you can fix those problems. I think our O will be fine in times of need, but we had to find out what to expect out of our D, and what we can do to tweak it, before we get to conf play. Would you rather have the W this week, only to have our D exposed in conf play?
I am not saying I agree with the 4th and 1. What I am saying is, let it go, have some faith and show these kids some support in their efforts.

 

[83Hawk]

The defense had already been "exposed" for the majority of the game.

Sorry, but you go for the win. There was enough "evidence" of the shortcomings of the D to show what needed to be worked on.

You work on improvements in PRACTICE....not during a GAME.

 

[olddude]

The defense had already been "exposed" for the majority of the game.

Sorry, but yougo for the win. There was enough "evidence" of the shortcomings of the D to show what needed to be worked on.

You work on improvements in PRACTICE....not during a GAME.

Ok coach, and your teams record is what?

 

[LG210]

I went nuts. Got mad, complained about almost every aspect of our D, and got it out. New week, new team, thats all I am saying. The kids and coaches have work to do, best we can do now, as fans is be supportive. So lets do our best and hope that creates an attitude for them to do theirs.

See, I think you were being a spoiled brat for doing that (bolded text). You shouldn't have reacted at all. You are a grown adult, for God's sake. Act like it.

What is wrong with you?

 

[ShoreHawk15]

I think a lot of frustration that people (me included) are experiencing stems from three things:
- It's a loss to a rival
- We just went through a year where all of our losses came at the end of the game, giving up leads on the last/2nd to last possession, and once again we see it happen this year.
- We saw the same scenario played out two years ago against Ohio State.

No matter which side you are on: "Favored the strategy at the end" or "Should have tried to win it in regulation/go for it on 4th and 1 in OT" we probably all agree that Iowa is much better with Ferentz than we are without him. Hopefully nobody argues that. But that doesn't mean that some people won't get frustrated from time to time with certain strategies and decisions made during the game. And of course more of it will come out after losses. Let people vent and have their say.

I am still confident about this season and am ready to see our team take the field against Pitt. One game doesn't change that.

 

[olddude]

See, I think you were being a spoiled brat for doing that (bolded text). You shouldn't have reacted at all. You are a grown adult, for God's sake. Act like it.

What is wrong with you?

I know, I know. My only excuse is I live with a Husker fan and she took every delight in being a Husker fan. I blew a gasket when I had this site up and as a joke she typed in go clones, while we were in OT. I deleted it and just put all ........ in it's place. You could say I went all Bo after that.

 

[83Hawk]

Ok coach, and your teams record is what?

Undefeated.

Tell me something....in similar situations....under 2 minutes to go with 2 time outs...what would you say the ratio of: trying to score vs letting the clock run out
have you witnessed when watching college football games?

 

[Dragonhawk]

another point of frustration, go check out the new 2 deeps 10walk-on are on it, what type of recruits do we have to allow that many walk-ons in the 2 deeps

 

[hawkfan2679]

Grow up, and can I have fries with that please.
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But I guess when you are worried about if that was super sized or not, you dont have a chance to think about things like that.

Way to keep the discussion/argument classy fella...

 

[tm3308]

Ok coach, and your teams record is what?

Very clever

 

[tm3308]

Maybe you should look past the last 13 years and consider the whole series? Iowa still leads 39-20.

So the fact that we used to flat out dominate this series is supposed to make us feel better about being 6-7 over the past 13 years?

 

[hawkfan2679]

So the fact that we used to flat out dominate this series is supposed to make us feel better about being 6-7 over the past 13 years?

In that case we should probably stop chastising Nebraska fans. After all, they had some of the top teams in college football history in the 90's.

 

[olddude]

Undefeated.

Tell me something....in similar situations....under 2 minutes to go with 2 time outs...what would you say the ratio of: trying to score vs letting the clock run out
have you witnessed when watching college football games?

Alright then coach, then I am sure you have delt with parents who question why that play or why my kid is'nt playing. Hows that work out for you? Do you listen to them? Do you tolerate a bunch of second guessing and general tearing down of your program? I dont think you are a coach at all. Your way of thinking is that of a man who beats a dog to get it to listen, and trust me those are the worst dogs to retrain.
But to answer your question, I never said I agreed with the calls. I understood the sit on it, but not the 4th and 1. But then again I never played D1 much less coached it. I have had some sucess stories in my life and they never came from anything but support and hard work. We are not going to do the work for them, so lets do what we can by supporting the kids and not tearing down their ball club. Sound good cheif?

 

[tm3308]

Alright then coach, then I am sure you have delt with parents who question why that play or why my kid is'nt playing. Hows that work out for you? Do you listen to them? Do you tolerate a bunch of second guessing and general tearing down of your program? I dont think you are a coach at all. Your way of thinking is that of a man who beats a dog to get it to listen, and trust me those are the worst dogs to retrain.
But to answer your question, I never said I agreed with the calls. I understood the sit on it, but not the 4th and 1. But then again I never played D1 much less coached it. I have had some sucess stories in my life and they never came from anything but support and hard work. We are not going to do the work for them, so lets do what we can by supporting the kids and not tearing down their ball club. Sound good cheif?

When it's clear that the defense couldn't stop Jantz, there was little sense in putting the game on their shoulders. There's no arguing that point. KF made the wrong call, and people are upset about it.

Pete Carroll went for it on 4th and 2 against Texas in the Rose Bowl a few years back, trying to get a first down to ice the game. Because he knew that if Vince Young got the ball in his hands with 2+ minutes left in the game, it wouldn't matter how far the Horns were pinned back, Young was going to get the touchdown to win the game. So he went to try and win the game on that 4th and 2, rather than punt and just pray that Young failed (when Young was Superman without Kryptonite).

USC failed to get the first down. But it was still the right call, because any decision that didn't involve USC extending the drive was going to end up costing them the game, which included punting.

Iowa essentially punted on that 4th and 1.

 

[olddude]

When it's clear that the defense couldn't stop Jantz, there was little sense in putting the game on their shoulders. There's no arguing that point. KF made the wrong call, and people are upset about it.

Pete Carroll went for it on 4th and 2 against Texas in the Rose Bowl a few years back, trying to get a first down to ice the game. Because he knew that if Vince Young got the ball in his hands with 2+ minutes left in the game, it wouldn't matter how far the Horns were pinned back, Young was going to get the touchdown to win the game. So he went to try and win the game on that 4th and 2, rather than punt and just pray that Young failed (when Young was Superman without Kryptonite).

USC failed to get the first down. But it was still the right call, because any decision that didn't involve USC extending the drive was going to end up costing them the game, which included punting.

Iowa essentially punted on that 4th and 1.

I know, I know. I yelled it so loud I am surprised KF didnt hear it (hundreds of miles away). It's done. Right or wrong. My yelling didnt stop it and me going over it and over it wont change it. Nothing for me to do, but be the best fan I know how and that does not involve tearing down the club. I choose to try and inspire rather than tear down. Now being all busted up, it is harder to show or to do, but I find other ways to inspire. Like I said I have some sucess stories, and I will do my best to continue to promote and develop sucess stories for as long as I am around. Which reminds me, I need to jump to another thread for a bit.

 

[David79]

I say we might as well forfeit the remaining games this season. All hope has been lost after the loss on Saturday. I'm questionng whether we should continue with the football program at all.

 

[David79]

When it's clear that the defense couldn't stop Jantz, there was little sense in putting the game on their shoulders. There's no arguing that point. KF made the wrong call, and people are upset about it.

Pete Carroll went for it on 4th and 2 against Texas in the Rose Bowl a few years back, trying to get a first down to ice the game. Because he knew that if Vince Young got the ball in his hands with 2+ minutes left in the game, it wouldn't matter how far the Horns were pinned back, Young was going to get the touchdown to win the game. So he went to try and win the game on that 4th and 2, rather than punt and just pray that Young failed (when Young was Superman without Kryptonite).

USC failed to get the first down. But it was still the right call, because any decision that didn't involve USC extending the drive was going to end up costing them the game, which included punting.

Iowa essentially punted on that 4th and 1.

Who is to say that USC wouldn't have won if they punted? You don't know that. Second, if they went for it and didn't get it then ISU automatically wins. Three points gives us a shot to win, zero points doesn't. Also, why don't you yell at Davis for putting Iowa in that position in the first place instead of the coach. If Davis catches a very catchable ball they would have had a first down possibly a TD.

 

[tm3308]

Who is to say that USC wouldn't have won if they punted? You don't know that. Second, if they went for it and didn't get it then ISU automatically wins. Three points gives us a shot to win, zero points doesn't. Also, why don't you yell at Davis for putting Iowa in that position in the first place instead of the coach. If Davis catches a very catchable ball they would have had a first down possibly a TD.

It was pretty clear throughout the course of the game that Vince Young was NOT going to be denied. That's how Carroll judged the situation. Just like it was clear that Jantz wasn't going to be denied on Saturday.

And I'm not going to bag on a player for something like that, especially when it rarely happens. KF is being paid over $3 million to make the tough decisions. He shouldn't be above criticism when he makes the wrong one.