What is it going to take? How bad does it have to get???????

It's not the same thing. I am complaining about how Iowa has a terrible coach. You are crying like a little girl because it causes you pain to read it. Cry to yourself about that if you want. Feel free to voice anything when it comes to Iowa football.

FreedComanche

Wow, I am crying like a little girl, really? And did I say it caused me pain? No, I didn't. I am not the one who is the one going from thread to thread ranting, arguing with anyone who doesn't agree with me. Now who is crying like a little girl?
 
Wow, I am crying like a little girl, really? And did I say it caused me pain? No, I didn't. I am not the one who is the one going from thread to thread ranting, arguing with anyone who doesn't agree with me. Now who is crying like a little girl?

You are.

If you can't see the difference in the scenario I gave, well, I can't help you. But it's ok, HN is a big tent. There is room for weak kneed moderates like you. Just don't cry to hard when you read someone venting about one of the worst coaches in America. :)

FreedComanche
 
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You are.

If you can't see the difference in the scenario I gave, well, I can't help you. But it's ok, HN is a big tent. There is room for weak kneed moderates like you. Just don't cry to hard when you read someone venting about one of the worst coaches in America. :)

FreedComanche


I don't mind people vent, I really don't. I just don't see the point of a new thread every 5 minutes about the same thing. That is what is stupid about it, everyone says the same thing when making fun of KF, "Insanity by definition is doing the same thing, over and over and expecting different results". If you can't see that what you and some of the others are doing on here isn't related to that same exact line of logic then well I can't help you. You can't see it because you agree with them and want to vant all day and night long about Ferentz. You have to see it from both sides but you can't do that, which is something that little girls have a problem with, they only see what they want to see. You sir, only see what you want, little girl. Is that clear enough for you?

You always seem to forget I am on your side about Ferentz. At least we will always agree he needs to go, even if it isn't on anything else but that.
 
I don't mind people vent, I really don't. I just don't see the point of a new thread every 5 minutes about the same thing. That is what is stupid about it, everyone says the same thing when making fun of KF, "Insanity by definition is doing the same thing, over and over and expecting different results". If you can't see that what you and some of the others are doing on here isn't related to that same exact line of logic then well I can't help you. You can't see it because you agree with them and want to vant all day and night long about Ferentz. You have to see it from both sides but you can't do that, which is something that little girls have a problem with, they only see what they want to see. You sir, only see what you want, little girl. Is that clear enough for you?

You always seem to forget I am on your side about Ferentz. At least we will always agree he needs to go, even if it isn't on anything else but that.

LOL..............no little girl, I see the big picture here from all sides. It's been 14 years. One side has to lose now, yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You may say you agree that he has to go..............but............you don't really believe that. If you really do believe that then please join my Army that I am currently raising to invade Fort Kinnick.

FreedComanche
 
LOL..............no little girl, I see the big picture here from all sides. It's been 14 years. One side has to lose now, yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You may say you agree that he has to go..............but............you don't really believe that. If you really do believe that then please join my Army that I am currently raising to invade Fort Kinnick.

FreedComanche

Freed, I am thinking about it. One question thou, will there be free cookies (grilled meat) and punch(anything with booze, minus fruity crap)?
 
Freed, I am thinking about it. One question thou, will there be free cookies (grilled meat) and punch(anything with booze, minus fruity crap)?

I run my Army like General Washington did his. No foul language or alcohol. My Continental Congress will be the big time boosters. They fund this Army or it doesn't get raised. Bring your own gun just to be sure we have fire arms.

FreedComanche
 
We have started to grow used to mediocrity and accepting of it. Kirk is soooooo over rated! Until he is gone and Iowa demands better, I'm holding onto my money. No more going to Kinnick and no more buying Iowa gear. It's a small thing, but it's how I choose to show my disgust. Iowa deserves better!
 
We have started to grow used to mediocrity and accepting of it. Kirk is soooooo over rated! Until he is gone and Iowa demands better, I'm holding onto my money. No more going to Kinnick and no more buying Iowa gear. It's a small thing, but it's how I choose to show my disgust. Iowa deserves better!

You are not alone. More and more people are doing what you are.

ferentz is not over rated anymore. Most college football folks see him as exposed right now for what he's been all along. The only difference now is that he has nobody on his staff that can recruit like he did in the beginning.

FreedComanche
 
It's not the same thing. I am complaining about how Iowa has a terrible coach. You are crying like a little girl because it causes you pain to read it. Cry to yourself about that if you want. Feel free to voice anything when it comes to Iowa football.

FreedComanche


You say feel free to post anything when it comes to Iowa football, but what you really mean is feel free to post anything as long as you agree with me! I have no problem with all of the posts wanting KF fired even though I don't agree with them and I can just agree to disagree. You, however, seem to think that everyone should want him fired, and if we don't then we are pathetic, etc.... Last time I checked, we had just as much right to our opinion as you do, without being put down for it.
 
You say feel free to post anything when it comes to Iowa football, but what you really mean is feel free to post anything as long as you agree with me! I have no problem with all of the posts wanting KF fired even though I don't agree with them and I can just agree to disagree. You, however, seem to think that everyone should want him fired, and if we don't then we are pathetic, etc.... Last time I checked, we had just as much right to our opinion as you do, without being put down for it.

"You, however, seem to think that everyone should want him fired, and if we don't then we are pathetic"

For the most part, yes.

FreedComanche
 
"You, however, seem to think that everyone should want him fired, and if we don't then we are pathetic"

For the most part, yes.

FreedComanche


Then perhaps you should take your own advice and stop reading the posts that don't agree with you instead of crying about it and calling people out. I've been a loyal fan for over 30 years and pathetic or not, I stand behind the team and their coach!
 
Then perhaps you should take your own advice and stop reading the posts that don't agree with you instead of crying about it and calling people out. I've been a loyal fan for over 30 years and pathetic or not, I stand behind the team and their coach!

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.................are you telling me what to do? How dare you. I thought you just got done giving me a dumb speech telling me not to do that.

Unlike you I don't cry. At least not on here anyway. And I also could not care less if you are a loyal fan or not or whatever you were blabbing about. Feel free to blab, just don't direct it toward me. I don't care what you think about college football for obvious reasons.

FreedComanche

 
To answer the OP:

1. A lot. I read 22 mil give or take. But that number goes down over time.

2. Two more seasons missing a bowl will prolly get it done. 2 wins or less next year might do it as well. But if he makes a bowl next year, all is forgiven. If he wins 8 or more, he'll get another raise and extension. If he makes it to the rose bowl, he will get lifetime tenure with hereditary succession.
 
The odds of ferentz leaving and passing up all those millions of Iowa dollars is about the same as when lickliter was given the opportunity to leave and pass up all those millions. Lickliter didn't pass up the money and neither will ferentz. If I was the Iowa coach, I probably wouldn't pass up all that money either. How bad would it have to get for ferentz to forfeit millions of dollars? Is there such a thing?
 
I guess the way I see it, people have the right to post complaints about the coaching staff if they want. Yeah, it's repetetive. Yeah, it gets old. But this is a message board, and this is the USA, where I thought freedom of speech was still a right?

My guess is that those who complain about threads like this disagree with the premise of what the OP is saying, so why not start threads of your own, stating YOUR position on Iowa Football instead of telling people to stop posting opinions that you disagree with?

Besides, what else is there really to talk about right now? With 3-straight down/disappointing seasons, you could say that Iowa Football has been repetetive (and not in a good way), so the message board topics are going to follow suit.
 
The odds of ferentz leaving and passing up all those millions of Iowa dollars is about the same as when lickliter was given the opportunity to leave and pass up all those millions. Lickliter didn't pass up the money and neither will ferentz. If I was the Iowa coach, I probably wouldn't pass up all that money either. How bad would it have to get for ferentz to forfeit millions of dollars? Is there such a thing?

I believe this is the right answer. And if KF gets fired, let's say TODAY, he still is owed over $20 million. If he doesn't get fired, and stays through 2020, he will make over $30 million if I'm not mistaken. He would be a fool to walk away from the cushy situation he's got.

That's why I also dont' think he's going to the NFL, even if he were offered a job. He could go there, make maybe $10 million or so over two years, then get fired? He has job security at Iowa that he won't get most anywhere else. Especially along with the salary he's getting. He's our coach for the forseeable future.
 
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