What happened to the Wildcat and all its options???? Especially on 3rd and short.

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uihawk82

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What a great play that would have been for that 3rd and 1 1/2 prior to the failed 4th and 1. Hell you can have Tracy in the slot, IKM and Goodson as split backs, Petras under center and then do a quick shift to put Petras at wideout, Goodson at QB with IKM and Tracy in the backfield. If wisky or the defense doesnt cover Petras toss him the ball, otherwise run the wildcat and go with the best hole!!!!

l think Goodson keeps it too many times so far in the wildcat so he just needs more practice to make the better reads on keeping or handing off but it seldom goes for little or no gain with power blocking and pick your best hole.

Remember Fry and his full house backfield sometimes with Hudson or Granger at fullback, and both Owen Gill and Harmon in the backfield. And they could run all manner of options and directions with that formation.

And guess what, if you were not watching OSU and Penn St (I didnt watch much) but I saw on a short yardage play PSU went original full house backfield with a complete full house T formation (yeah I know some of you younger fans have no idea what that formation is). And they had a fake and handoff on a slant off left tackle and there was a hole a 'mile' wide.

What is old is new and vice versa. Use some imagination Ferentz's!!!!
 
BrianFerentzForPresident said:
Same answer as every other question. Offensive Line has been offensive. I'd take 90% rushing out of a Wing-T formation if we had more than 1.5 offensive linemen worth starting.
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It's mind boggling that people think it's Petras' fault this thing is going south.

Even Brian Ferentz's...

What's BF supposed to do with this OL? There's literally no scheme that works when your OL is playing so badly that defenses can send 3 linebackers or safeties at will, with no threat of a run or short pass game (because of blocking).

Is Brian at fault for the depth problems? Partially, yes. But Nick Saban, Woody Hayes, and Knute Rockne put together couldn't out-scheme this OL and make Iowa score points when these guys have days like they did against Purdue and Wisconsin.
 
I wonder why the offensive line is getting worse as the season progresses? Injuries? Other teams playing better and improving more than us? Better competition? They have not been great all year, but they looked better at the start of the year.
 
HaydenHawk56 said:
I wonder why the offensive line is getting worse as the season progresses? Injuries? Other teams playing better and improving more than us? Better competition? They have not been great all year, but they looked better at the start of the year.
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We're in the meat of the B1G season now and we've exposed ourselves on a lot of film. Jeff Brohm is a damn smart coach who I'm surprised hasn't been picked up by a contender and Paul Chryst is also a guy who could probably coach at a blue blood if he wanted.

With the amount of rotation the Hawks have going on on the OL and the number of underclassmen getting lots of minutes, I think it's pretty apparent they just can't hang at this level of football.
 
According to Massey, here are the rankings of 4 defenses we have played (in the nation):

wisc. #2
Penn st: #6
Purdue: #8
Iowa st: #12

indiana, Maryland, colo st and Kent st were not nearly that high
 
HaydenHawk56 said:
They have not been great all year, but they looked better at the start of the year.
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Also...


Indiana - fake news and they got behind way early, taking pressure off our OL
Kent State & Colo State - Self explanatory and we even tried to lose those games too
ISU - B12 Defense
Maryland is Maryland
Penn State - Struggled to block that game and our defense won it.

You can only try to cover up your weakness for so long.
 
ChosenChildren said:
According to Massey, here are the rankings of 4 defenses we have played (in the nation):

wisc. #2
Penn st: #6
Purdue: #8
Iowa st: #12

indiana, Maryland, colo st and Kent st were not nearly that high
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The bad news is that minny, Illinois, Nebraska and NW defenses are all ranked in the Top 30 as well.

Iowa picked a bad year to have a young OL
 
ChosenChildren said:
The bad news is that minny, Illinois, Nebraska and NW defenses are all ranked in the Top 30 as well.

Iowa picked a bad year to have a young OL
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someone else posted yesterday that jNW defense is like #62??? Lot's of disinformation going on around here.
 
Fryowa said:
It's mind boggling that people think it's Petras' fault this thing is going south.

Even Brian Ferentz's...

What's BF supposed to do with this OL? There's literally no scheme that works when your OL is playing so badly that defenses can send 3 linebackers or safeties at will, with no threat of a run or short pass game (because of blocking).

Is Brian at fault for the depth problems? Partially, yes. But Nick Saban, Woody Hayes, and Knute Rockne put together couldn't out-scheme this OL and make Iowa score points when these guys have days like they did against Purdue and Wisconsin.
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Well I do not follow the recruiting and roster as much as some people but both Kirk and Brian, the big OLine gurus, could guess and knew that A Jackson was gone after last year and they must have known the current upper class roster OLinemen were not a great group except for Linderbaum and maybe Shott having the potential.

So why haven't Kirk and Brian hit the portal more? Is it a lack of good OLInemen in the portal? Last year the hawks had an IU transfer starting at right tackle but he got beat out by Kallenberger. And speaking of Kallenberger, when did he announce he was ending his career? I think it was early enough to again look at the portal.

Yeah, a few years ago Wirfs and Jackson played very early, very young, and very well but that doesnt happen often. So I put this on recruiting and that would be Kirk and Brian.

I dont say fire anybody but they need to do better and maybe Brian being the Oline coach again might work best.
 
uihawk82 said:
So why haven't Kirk and Brian hit the portal more? Is it a lack of good OLInemen in the portal? Last year the hawks had an IU transfer starting at right tackle but he got beat out by Kallenberger.
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You answered your own question.

People just assume there's a bunch of talent hanging around in the transfer portal waiting to get snagged up.

Newsflash for those folks, if the players in the portal were good enough to be starting at a B1G school they'd be starting at a B1G school or somewhere else. Yeah, there might be some hidden gems once in a blue moon, but why would you roll the dice on a guy that you hadn't recruited or gotten to see on a daily basis. Also, if you get in the habit of cruising the portal and bumping guys out of the lineup, what does that do to recruiting and retention of underclassmen? It ain't a good thing.
 
SmokeTownHawk said:
So does all of OL struggles this year point to a better line next season?
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Doubtful. Our best linemen that we've put through the program were good pretty much out of the gate. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head who sucked royally one year and came back as a difference maker the next.

What's more likely than that is for a freshman /sophomore to come on board who plays better and takes the job of someone who isn't cutting the mustard. These past two games certainly haven't helped our case in recruiting.
 
Fryowa said:
Doubtful. Our best linemen that we've put through the program were good pretty much out of the gate. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head who sucked royally one year and came back as a difference maker the next.

What's more likely than that is for a freshman /sophomore to come on board who plays better and takes the job of someone who isn't cutting the mustard. These past two games certainly haven't helped our case in recruiting.
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That is a scary situation with the bear of a schedule next year.
 
Fryowa said:
Doubtful. Our best linemen that we've put through the program were good pretty much out of the gate. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head who sucked royally one year and came back as a difference maker the next.

What's more likely than that is for a freshman /sophomore to come on board who plays better and takes the job of someone who isn't cutting the mustard. These past two games certainly haven't helped our case in recruiting.
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Yes I would certainly be in favor of younger players overtaking some of our present starters on the present OL.
 
Fryowa said:
Doubtful. Our best linemen that we've put through the program were good pretty much out of the gate. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head who sucked royally one year and came back as a difference maker the next.

What's more likely than that is for a freshman /sophomore to come on board who plays better and takes the job of someone who isn't cutting the mustard. These past two games certainly haven't helped our case in recruiting.
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Yes, Gallery, Bulaga, Reiff and a bunch of them Wirfs were starting and identified as really good as freshmen. So this was a recruiting miss which means it is on the coaches.
 
uihawk82 said:
someone else posted yesterday that jNW defense is like #62??? Lot's of disinformation going on around here.
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That may have been me with the #62.

I was going off the Football Outsiders defensive efficiency rating, which could be quite a lot different than the ranking you might come up with if you're going off a raw number (like ppg or total yards allowed per game, etc).
 
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