What Big Ten teams are losing for 2012-2013

JonDMiller

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Michigan State: Draymond Green is a senior...he is averaging over 15 and 10 this year, the likely MVP of the league. That will be a big loss for them...but they recruit better than just about everyone else in this league. I don't think they will be as good as they were this year, but probably not as soft as they were one year ago.

Michigan: Zach Novak is a senior and he is their 3rd leading scorer at 9.5 per game and their best three-point shooter. Trey Burke is a frosh phenom at point, but he is 5-11...don't think he'll turn pro. Wonder of Hardaway will go pro? He probably needs another year, but that doesn't always matter.

Illinois: No huge losses to graduation..but wonder what Brandon Paul may be thinking? He had an exponential jump this year and has shown flashes of being a great scorer. He is a junior and might not want to risk another year..time was when you could use that year to show your stuff..now, it seems the longer you stay, if you are a slasher/scorer type, the worse off things are for you in the eyes of the NBA. Meyers Leonard has made a huge jump this year, too and he has the plus of being 7-1/245. Would not shock me if either turned pro, especially as I believe Illinois will be making a coaching change. However, if everyone comes back who is expected back, the talent is still there.

Indiana: Their top five scorers and five of their top six rebounders have eligibility next year, plus Maurice Creek has one more year. They lose Verdell Jones and three-point specialist Matt Roth. Everyone will return other than perhaps Cody Zeller, who could be a lottery pick if he wants to turn pro. He might be one of the three best centers available in the draft, if not higher than that. If he comes back, with what they have coming back around him plus the recruiting class, the Hoosiers could contend for the title.

Wisconsin: They lose their best player in Jordan Taylor, but everyone else is back. My thought is Taylor makes this team what it is and makes everyone else better. He will be a bigger loss to Wisconsin that Green is for MSU, because Wisconsin doesn't recruiting like MSU.

Ohio State: William Buford is the lone senior on the team, but he will be a big loss. One of the best scorers in OSU history, he is averaging 15.1 per game this year. Sullinger leads them in scoring at 17.2/ppg, the same average he had as a freshman. Does Sully stay or turn pro? He really has little else to prove in the college game and would be a lottery pick. He would have been a lottery pick last year, too.

Purdue: This team will be hit harder by graduation than any team in the Big Ten. They lose their top three scorers in Robbie Hummel, Lewis Jackson and Ryne Smith. In reality, Purdue loses their top four scorers, as junior Kelsey Barlow was kicked off the team this week and he was their 4th leading scorer and second leading rebounder.

Minnesota: The Gophers lose Ralph Sampson III, plus Trevor Mbakwe has expired his eligibility as well. They return everyone else to a team that has struggled to find its way after Mbakwe went down in the seventh game. He was averaging 14/9.1 at that time. The Gophers probably would have made the tournament had he not gotten injured and I doubt the Hawks would have swept them.

Northwestern: They lose all time leading scorer John Shurna and some role players to graduation. Shurna will probably top the 2,000 point mark for his career and is a huge loss. Drew Crawford is back and Dave Sobolewski has been great as a frosh.

Nebraska: They lose their top two scorers and their 5th and 6th scorers.

Penn State: They lose their third leading scorer in Cameron Woodyard, but everyone else is back, including current soph Tim Frazier. He is 6-1/160...Talor Battle was 6-0/170, one of the best players in PSU history and he is currently playing for Telekom Baskets Bonn in Germany. So I expect Frazier to be back, although his teardrop floater does look NBA ready.

Iowa: The Hawkeyes lose Matt Gatens, their best outside threat who will likely end up as the school's 6th or 7th all time leading scorer. Bryce Cartwright will move on as will seldom used reserves Devon Archie and Andrew Brommer. Iowa is not a three-point heavy team, or hasn't been until the last two games and I don't expect them to make any moves forward in this area next year given the loss of Gatens.
 
Michigan State: Draymond Green is a senior...he is averaging over 15 and 10 this year, the likely MVP of the league. That will be a big loss for them...but they recruit better than just about everyone else in this league. I don't think they will be as good as they were this year, but probably not as soft as they were one year ago.

Michigan: Zach Novak is a senior and he is their 3rd leading scorer at 9.5 per game and their best three-point shooter. Trey Burke is a frosh phenom at point, but he is 5-11...don't think he'll turn pro. Wonder of Hardaway will go pro? He probably needs another year, but that doesn't always matter.

Illinois: No huge losses to graduation..but wonder what Brandon Paul may be thinking? He had an exponential jump this year and has shown flashes of being a great scorer. He is a junior and might not want to risk another year..time was when you could use that year to show your stuff..now, it seems the longer you stay, if you are a slasher/scorer type, the worse off things are for you in the eyes of the NBA. Meyers Leonard has made a huge jump this year, too and he has the plus of being 7-1/245. Would not shock me if either turned pro, especially as I believe Illinois will be making a coaching change. However, if everyone comes back who is expected back, the talent is still there.

Indiana: Their top five scorers and five of their top six rebounders have eligibility next year, plus Maurice Creek has one more year. They lose Verdell Jones and three-point specialist Matt Roth. Everyone will return other than perhaps Cody Zeller, who could be a lottery pick if he wants to turn pro. He might be one of the three best centers available in the draft, if not higher than that. If he comes back, with what they have coming back around him plus the recruiting class, the Hoosiers could contend for the title.

Wisconsin: They lose their best player in Jordan Taylor, but everyone else is back. My thought is Taylor makes this team what it is and makes everyone else better. He will be a bigger loss to Wisconsin that Green is for MSU, because Wisconsin doesn't recruiting like MSU.

Ohio State: William Buford is the lone senior on the team, but he will be a big loss. One of the best scorers in OSU history, he is averaging 15.1 per game this year. Sullinger leads them in scoring at 17.2/ppg, the same average he had as a freshman. Does Sully stay or turn pro? He really has little else to prove in the college game and would be a lottery pick. He would have been a lottery pick last year, too.

Purdue: This team will be hit harder by graduation than any team in the Big Ten. They lose their top three scorers in Robbie Hummel, Lewis Jackson and Ryne Smith. In reality, Purdue loses their top four scorers, as junior Kelsey Barlow was kicked off the team this week and he was their 4th leading scorer and second leading rebounder.

Minnesota: The Gophers lose Ralph Sampson III, plus Trevor Mbakwe has expired his eligibility as well. They return everyone else to a team that has struggled to find its way after Mbakwe went down in the seventh game. He was averaging 14/9.1 at that time. The Gophers probably would have made the tournament had he not gotten injured and I doubt the Hawks would have swept them.

Northwestern: They lose all time leading scorer John Shurna and some role players to graduation. Shurna will probably top the 2,000 point mark for his career and is a huge loss. Drew Crawford is back and Dave Sobolewski has been great as a frosh.

Nebraska: They lose their top two scorers and their 5th and 6th scorers.

Penn State: They lose their third leading scorer in Cameron Woodyard, but everyone else is back, including current soph Tim Frazier. He is 6-1/160...Talor Battle was 6-0/170, one of the best players in PSU history and he is currently playing for Telekom Baskets Bonn in Germany. So I expect Frazier to be back, although his teardrop floater does look NBA ready.

Iowa: The Hawkeyes lose Matt Gatens, their best outside threat who will likely end up as the school's 6th or 7th all time leading scorer. Bryce Cartwright will move on as will seldom used reserves Devon Archie and Andrew Brommer. Iowa is not a three-point heavy team, or hasn't been until the last two games and I don't expect them to make any moves forward in this area next year given the loss of Gatens.
Hahaha!!! I love it, Jon! Every team you wrote at least three sentences or so, and even mentioned players names. For Nebraska- one quick sentence, no one mentioned. I love how ISU and Iowa fans totally don't give Nebby an ounce of respect!
 
Michigan will be a top 5 team in the pre-season,I suspect. They only lose Novak and Douglass. They add McGary(#3 overall 6'11 power forward who is already a year out of high school), and Glenn Robinson jr(#43 overall) small forward. So they will have a lineup of Burke,Hardaway,Robinson,Smotryx,McGrary and Morgan....with Horford in reserve. That is lights out.
 
Michigan will be ranked #1 if they're allowed to play that lineup. 6-on-5 makes for some ballin' back cuts on O and great trapping on D.
 
Michigan will be a top 5 team in the pre-season,I suspect. They only lose Novak and Douglass. They add McGary(#3 overall 6'11 power forward who is already a year out of high school), and Glenn Robinson jr(#43 overall) small forward. So they will have a lineup of Burke,Hardaway,Robinson,Smotryx,McGrary and Morgan....with Horford in reserve. That is lights out.

And Indiana is bringing in a ridiculous class of talent. Michigan st has a stud from Indiana coming in. Ohio State always brings in talent.

League should have 4 very good teams next year
 
I was thinking the opposite

Hardly, if Zeller and Sullinger stay, something that would not surprise me at all then the BIG has four legit Nat'l title contenders...Purdue, Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota take steps back, but will not totally disappear and Iowa has a great shot to finish 5/6 and make the NCAA tourney.

The recruiting classes that the BIG has coming in, especially 1-5 are as good as any conference, if not better going head to head with other conferences. The BIG will truly be the best conference next year with the amount of teams that will matter come March and contend when all is said and done.
 
And Indiana is bringing in a ridiculous class of talent. Michigan st has a stud from Indiana coming in. Ohio State always brings in talent.

League should have 4 very good teams next year

OSU hasn't signed anyone and has just one scholarship available, they have been slighted by every top recruit they have went after. We'll see who they bring in this Spring, if anyone and who else leaves...I have a feeling there could be a major defection in store for OSU, just a guess...all the talent that doesn't play...
 
just like Iowa gains Gesell and Woodbury at positions of need, and i find it funny how certain team gain tnstant superstars in their 4 or 5* talent that will produce immediately.
but Iowa's 4* talent can barely compete or may take a year or two to develope, this Iowa team still has a chance of finishing in 5th place, and then to be relegated back to the bottum half, is very confusing
 
My take on Iowa hoops vs. the rest of the conference moving forward...

We should be able to consistently attract better players than NE, NW and PSU and stay fairly close to MN and WI, which, from a talent perspective, should put us in the middle of the pack.

McCaffrey has stabalized the ship (no player transfers, off the court issues, renewed fan interest). With our incoming recruits, the style of play should only improve and other programs will encounter bumps in the road (coaching changes, losing recruits to graduation or NBA). Gatens will be missed, but the other graduations are necessary to move the program forward.

For the first time in quite a while, Iowa will be actually building vs. rebuilding next season. Despite having 5 incoming freshman, we have a core group of committed players returning and a new identity that isn't grounded in a losing mentality.
 
Indiana is finally starting to keep it's best players. This is a worst case scenario for B1G.

Yes, but the BIG as a whole is keeping the best players out of IN...best case scenario for the BIG.
McGary is originally from Chesterton, IN...Novak's hometown.

Iowa has one, Purdue has two from IN...

There are 10 total players from IN coming to the BIG next season; the rest of the Power Six conferences have three combined, something that is a reverse trend.
 
You can talk about all the 4* and 5* talent coming into the Big10. All I have to say is Aaron White, Devon Marble. Both 2 star players raised to 3 stars after they committed to Iowa. Both should be phenomenal next year.
 
what i would like to know what bigten teams are gaining for 2012-13..........

5 teams ranked in the Top 25 nationally in recruiting...ESPN/Rivals differ on Iowa, ESPN has their class ranked, but Rivals doesn't. Each site does have Iowa 5th in BIG recruiting for next season.

Rivals order: Indiana (2), Michigan (5), Michigan State (12), Purdue (24)
ESPN: MSU (6), Indiana (9), Michigan (9), Purdue (16), Iowa (20)

Rivals has said Iowa was on the cusp of a national ranking with the two 4* recruits.

Teams below Iowa in BIG that have a notable recruit is Wisconsin with Sam Dekker, a 6-7 SF that many predict will lead them is most categories offensively next season.

Northwestern has Kale Abrahamson to replace Shurna in some capacity, but it appears he will have a significant role next season with what they have coming back.

Nebraska has three JUCO kids coming in next year.

Minnesota has just two guys signed, surprising with all the players that have left and with graduation.

Penn State/Illinios have nobody of note so far.

And OSU has nobody signed or a verbal as of yet.
 
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