MeatMan
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cuts me real deep when you say that.
What about Fran's coaching?
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cuts me real deep when you say that.
HomerChampless
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That is the problem... Posters point to 1 play going for Iowa, or against an opponent per game to turn this season around?
What about the, In my estimated opinion, other 120 plays that occured in the ball game? Fran makes it harder for Iowa to win. Wierd lineups, wierd subsitution patterns, sometimes substitutions when none should be made. Play calling. Sometimes, it all boils down to a close game at the end. A game the youngsters aren't accustomed to winning.
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hawkeyemark
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Very good post. I have started to come to the conclusion that Fran had a great run building programs in the mid-majors doing things rather unconventionally. He had a bit of a reputation for that at Siena but there it worked. In this conference at this level of play and the quality of coaches he goes up against game after game I think we have begun to see a few cracks in his armour. I believe that Fran's success at Iowa will depend on how well he adjusts his game management to put his team in the best position to win in the Big Ten. IMO the jury remains out at this point.
BasketballMan
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Great post. The substitutions r downright bizarre at times. we will never win consistently in the BIG playing 10 guys. u gotta ride your studs. This ain't Siena.
sportstalent
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Um, ok.
Did you question this last year?
Year 3 and Iowa hasn't won the close games this year they did last year...it isn't that had to figure out...has nothing to do with the coaching.
And you ain't smart lol.
Fran played a much tighter rotation at Siena, he doesnt have the stud guards here yet like he did there.
MeatMan
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i'm too lazy to do the research, but i thought someone looked it up and said that Fran usually doesn't play a lot of guys. it just worked out that way with this roster. of course i could just be making that up, but that's what i remember.
hawkeyemark
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Good post and very nice short summation of Fran IMO. Certain aspects of Fran's coaching even when we play well like yesterday can drive you crazy. Even yesterday we had some strange line-ups in at times and I think we will likely always see that. Fran really takes some figuring out to try and get a handle on some of the things he does. He just goes about things in a little different way than many coaches and I do think up to yesterday's game we blew a couple opportunities to exceed expectations while at the same time playing very good basketball aside from about one half or more at Michigan. It still seems too early IMO to view Fran as the savior of the program but this guy can coach and has the potential to do some good things here.
I think Fran substitutes sometimes with the priority to pull guys out rather than to put someone in. Yesterday is a good example, early in the game at about the 3-4 minute mark, I think, several hawks just stood there and watched and let a NW guy swoop in and get a long rebound about 10 ft out.
You could see Fran stand up, looking pizzed, and start pointing to several guys. Next thing you know, you had May, McCabe, and one other player coming in. And I bet the guys who went out heard about it from the coaches.
Every coach does this...it is the times where he breaks up a lineup that is working before they play for very long that is frustrating. Like taking woody out when he isn't fouling and playing great defense against the wisky bigs. Then who ever goes in for him gets beat by bergerren (sp?).
sportstalent
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I like the fact that Fran pulls kids when they make a mistake, it has to happen. There are times that I think Fran overmanages his team trying to give guys enough rest so they don't crap out in the end. Sometimes, that can back fire and guys who were playing well and pulled just before a TV timeout, but don't go back in coming out of that TV timeout sit too long.
That said, I really don't have any issues with what Fran is doing, there may have been a couple games that I wondered why he did some things, but when it comes down to it, he is relying on the guys he feels can get it done and part of that is they did last year.
Fran still won't have a complete roster next year, but it is getting closer, the good thing is the team will be a year older and I can see guys like Gesell/Woodbury becoming more reliable scorers night in and night out.
It is a process and if Iowa gets to any postseason that is the goal there, the NCAA tournament is the common goal, but for a team still trying to find itself, the NIT is not a bad consolation.
HomerChampless
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I have to emphasize the winning close games have nothing to do with coaching, then laugh.
Does Iowa have a coach like George Raveling in Fran? A coach that's more known for recruiting than coaching? Is this a reaction to Iowa's last coach who was not known for recruiting, but coaching? Was Lick's hiring a reaction to the previous coach, Alford, who was know for recruiting but we didn't, IMO, get a lot of coaching from?
Guess I've got a problem with the AD as well.
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sportstalent
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You have now compared Fran to Ferentz and Raveling....wow, just wow.
Fran is doing a great job no need to start throwing crap like this out there.
I was wrong in my initial reply a couple pages back.
Agreed, if it happens over the next 2-3 years, then yes, it is a trend. Until then I am not worried about it.
sportstalent
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Nobody complained last year when those games went Iowa's way...wish they would have waited a year given non-con record compared to last year.
