What about Fran's coaching?

DuffMan said:
I enjoy when a bunch of people who couldn't coach a youth bball game get to talking about a D1 coach and all of his bad coaching.
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Aren't you the same ******* keeping a running total of Woodbury's blocks?

Please link to your college stats so we can observe your impressive block total. Thks.
 
SpiderRico said:
To take Iowa from the depths of where it was and get it to where it is in less than 3 full seasons is nothing short of a miracle. A bad coach doesn't pull that off. I think he's a very good evaluator of talent, a good saleman for the university, a good developer of talent and is a very good in-game coach. For example, we've scored on more out of bounds plays in the 2+ years he's been coach than we have in the last 10 years before him combined.

HOWEVER, the one thing I think he can be criticized for are substitution patterns. And I have a gut feeling that that is due to him not having the necessary experience in having as many talented contributors as he has this year. Because of that, I think he struggles sometimes in coming up with the proper combinations that work or how best to fit all the pieces together. I think (especially on the road) he tends to lean more on experience in crunch time than he does with what is actually working at that point. Which is the reason why May, McCabe, Oglesby, Basabe and Marble, even though he's shown no effectiveness since before the MSU game, are playing more minutes in crunch time than what their overall talent level says they should be playing.

A poster above had it right.....Woodbury was battling Bergerren great. Olesani was too athletic for any of their bigs. Yet, when it came down to the last 4 minutes of regulation and most of the 2 overtimes, neither were to be found. And it really affected how well we rebounded and defended inside.

At the end of the day, though, if that's the worst thing that can be said about Fran, then I'll take it. Because that's something that can easily be learned and fixed and I fully expect next year to be much different in terms of how he utilizes his players.
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I agree with the vast majority of your post but I disagree with this sentence. I think each of Iowa's contributors has significant holes in their game at this point and he's struggling trying to find a balance that evens out all of these flaws. Woodbury has been very good on defense, but he doesn't provide much on offense and without Marble being up to his usual standards, we need to have lineups who can score. May is somewhat the same way, McCabe is the opposite in that he can score but struggles on defense. You can tell Fran really trusts Gesell but he can't be playing him 35+ mins a game yet. It's a juggling act right now for a team that's really struggling to score at times.
 
DuffMan said:
I enjoy when a bunch of people who couldn't coach a youth bball game get to talking about a D1 coach and all of his bad coaching.
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The sad thign about this really simple minded assertion is that 7 people like this comment.

This is just bad bad logic really - just because someone isn't an "Expert" on somethign doesn't mean they can't have an opinion.

So hey I've never been a president so I can't criticize the president? My doctor his horrible but oh I can't criticize him - I've never been a doctor.

It's boggling that people still type such nonsense over and over.


Really there is no other word for such simple mindedness besides.

Dumb post
 
hawkfan33 said:
Aren't you the same ******* keeping a running total of Woodbury's blocks?

Please link to your college stats so we can observe your impressive block total. Thks.
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Have you seen the Gieco commercial with Dikembe Mutombo?

Yeah, that was DuffMan, only white.
 
hoffahawk said:
You should check out the football board then, it's a lot of fun.
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Hoffa, I was just saying in another thread that the basketball forum was turning into the football forum.

People getting pizzed off over their own expectations and bad coaching and this player sucks and that player should be taken out back and beaten with a hose and what not.
 
dave3912 said:
Hoffa, I was just saying in another thread that the basketball forum was turning into the football forum.

People getting pizzed off over their own expectations and bad coaching and this player sucks and that player should be taken out back and beaten with a hose and what not.
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Don't forget all the genious Aaron White will be a lottery pick posts.

I swear there are so many people who just don't understand basketball at all around this place.
 
I think this team plays above its talent level, which I attribute to good coaching. Think about it, there isn't a guy on the team that can shoot with any consistency, there isn't a guy on the team that can create his own shot, we have 2 true frosh point guards, the team doesn't have a bruiser/enforcer, and the player we counted on most going into the season is in a complete funk, and yet here they are competing and being in position to win games on the road against good competition. No doubt even Fran probably second guesses some decisions down the stretch of these past few games, but his overall coaching and directing of the program is fine with me. Third straight year of the team being better than the one before it.
 
If Iowa makes their free throws then we wouldn't be talking about Fran.

White missed 2 key ones and McCabe missed one late as well last night.

Same for the Minnesota game. Iowa isn't making their free throws late.
 
I don't like our half court offense. Too much aimless dribbling at times without even getting a shot attempt up. The poor shooting only makes it look worse.

Like others have said above, sub patterns can be perplexing.

But, Fran has a lot of positives

-Has recruited pretty well so far.
-Will Press
-Will play man and zone defense
-Will Run
-Can communicate real well with the public
-Appreciates Iowa Basketball History.
 
the offense we run for oglesby I like - we just need a shooter who can make them.'

Right now we dont have that yet - maybe Jok can be that guy.
 
busabus114 said:
I will also add that Fran doesnt throw his players under the bus. Can you imagine what alford would say about these stiffs if he was coaching this team?
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one thing for sure, it would be ugly! he might even give out JO's phone number so people could call him and tell him how he is doing.
 
dave3912 said:
Hoffa, I was just saying in another thread that the basketball forum was turning into the football forum.

People getting pizzed off over their own expectations and bad coaching and this player sucks and that player should be taken out back and beaten with a hose and what not.
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lots of unrealistic expectations prior to this season. lots. look up the prediction thread.
 
MeatMan said:
lots of unrealistic expectations prior to this season. lots. look up the prediction thread.
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I highly doubt the people with unrealistic expectations are the ones being overly negative now. It's wrong when people say unrealistic expectations cause people to be negative when things don't go their way. The people who are negative are the ones who had low pre season predictions because that's how negative people ar
 
HomerChampless said:
I've reviewed most of the threads and posts in this forum and nothing has been said about, IMO, Fran's bad coaching.

For example in the second half of last night's game, Woodbury is clogging up the middle while getting rebounds over Bergeron and Kaminsky and Iowa is comfortably in the lead. Woody doesn't need to score, here. I think Woody had maybe one foul. In comes Olaseni to replace Woody and he does an effective job of 'putting a clamp' on Bergeron and clogging up the middle while Kaminsky goes to the bench for the remainder of the game.

I would agree and why he had White miss that FT on purpose is beyond me. Wouldn't you rather be behind 1 with close to 5 seconds left and the badgers on the line with a chance to win or tie instead of that lame *** thing they did.

Fran then decides to try Basabe at center who is schooled by Bergeron and then Fran decides to try McCabe at center who is also schooled by Bergeron. Wisconsin's one and dones under the basket with Woody and Gabe become tip drills, put backs and new shot clocks.

Why was Woody taken out for the entirety of the rest of the second half? It seems to me Fran has an obsessive-compulsive need to rest Woody for great periods of the game.
Why did Gabe see no duty after that?

Granted, Iowa is a very young team. They're learning quite a lot this year. Why does Fran, IMO, constantly put them in a position of losing? Against Purdue a clearout was called for Marble. Gesell took the last two shots against Minny. Yet, no player on Iowa has proven they consistantly create a mismatch this year.
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MeatMan said:
lots of unrealistic expectations prior to this season. lots. look up the prediction thread.
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There were some, but it isn't the expectations that have people ticked, it is trickling leads and games down their leg.

Iowa still has a chance to finish well, win all games at home and get a couple of the road and they still position themselves to have a shot at dancin'.
 
Fran is going to bring this program all the way back. Look how far we have come in just the short time he's been here. With Lick, I'd look around the B1G and think we're only in competition with the bottom feeders. Last year and now this year we have been competitive. More this year than last. With as good as the B1G is it is impressive that we are so close to an excellent season and NCAA positioning. This season is not one to give up on as there's a lot of basketball left, but I have the utmost confidence in Fran as we go forward.
 
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