I0WA
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You probably thought Tolzien was better than Stanzi too
We will beat NW and Wisky
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Bigtenchamp
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yeah I wouldn't expect anything like that again... that was really a great pass by Rudock.
TheeHawkeye
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We were dominated by their offense. It wasn't a couple "miracle" runs. Bad coaching strategy and not making adjustments resulted in 4 good runs.
TheeHawkeye
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Not at all? I hated Tolzien. That had no logic to it and was completely irrelevant to the point I made.
tm3308
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I see the best running game in the Big Ten, the best wide receiver in the Big Ten, a quarterback who doesn't make a lot of mistakes and a salty defense.
I will be shocked if we beat Wisconsin.
tm3308
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Manning makes his guys better. He would throw for 250+ with practice squad guys. Other guys look good because of the guys around them.
HawkPrdatr40
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I still think this, however Northwestern today opened my eyes to thinking we can win that game. Wisconsin and Nebraska not happening. Michigan no way in heck we can score with that offense. No Way!!
HawkeyeWalker
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Wouldn't say I was satisfied. Never am with a loss. But I saw lots of improvements and that helps for future games. I feel like 2 more wins is more doable than I did before this game.
ArvadaHawk
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I had predicted Iowa to lose big...really big today, but they didn't. However, they still lost. So, right now, that is the extent of my credibility, today.
Having said that, Wisky's running game is too good and our pass defense too poor. NW: you can't discount the Fitz factor and the fact that KF is clueless on how to beat NW. I say that is an 0-2 stretch. I will say, that we could beat Purdue (though that is on the road and is in no way a gimme, at this point), and perhaps, just maybe, Nebby. But I don't think we beat both Purdue and Nebby.
Having said that, Wisky's running game is too good and our pass defense too poor. NW: you can't discount the Fitz factor and the fact that KF is clueless on how to beat NW. I say that is an 0-2 stretch. I will say, that we could beat Purdue (though that is on the road and is in no way a gimme, at this point), and perhaps, just maybe, Nebby. But I don't think we beat both Purdue and Nebby.
tm3308
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Gardner took care of the ball this week, which is something he's struggled to do this year. I wouldn't be shocked if we did beat Michigan, assuming Gardner gives us a few gifts (which is not a crazy possibility).
JCinthePowerI
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Negatory, ghost rider. Rudock is better because when you watch, you can see that he's better. You take portions of Stave's success with a grain of salt when comparing to Rudock because of the inherit advantages you know Stave has. Rudock is better. Hands down. Shut your mouth.
TheeHawkeye
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Please explain how...
JCinthePowerI
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Shut your mouth and go edit your incorrect spelling of our QB's name. Then you'll be granted with an explanation.
HawkPrdatr40
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Sadly you couldn't be more wrong. You seriously must not have watched either of those games.
HawkPrdatr40
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I have no idea how we score with them.
TheeHawkeye
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Haha you have no explanation. I'm glad me accidentally typing an extra D doesn't allow you to elaborate. Must not have anything to say.
I0WA
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We played up to par with OSU both sides of the ball for 3 1/2 quarters, OSU had control of the whole game from the start and got points in garbage time to make the score closer. Granted Wisky did get 3 and outs... if anything NW played OSU best but IMO we played OSU better than Wisky
NOt in IMO and how can you say it when our defense never stopped them except for the 4th down. Wisky is faster on defense than we are and that will show when we play them.
I want the hawks to win all their games and I think they played a really good game.
Just need some more speed to run down guys like Miller and Gordon, etc
JCinthePowerI
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When comparing Rudock's weapons to Stave's, Rudock is at a huge disadvantage. With that, creates huge apples to oranges differences between the two QB's.
First of all, teams have to respect Abbrederis with a safety over the top much more often than they have to respect any of Iowa's WR's with safeties over the top.
Secondly, teams have to bring 8 into the box at a much higher frequency because of Gordon.
Thirdly, the above two advantages creates more easy passing opportunities for Stave than for Rudock. I'd say 50% more easy passing opportunities (i.e., we'll give you the 6 yard stop route or we'll give you the 5 yard pass to the TE type opportunities).
So you take all that into perspective, and then you compare the two QB's. Visually, Rudock is a better scrambler. He makes more plays with his feet. Statistically, they're very similar. Rudock completes virtually the same percentage of his passes (60.3 vs. 61.8). Rudock has virtually the same TD to INT ratio (11-7 vs. 11-6). Rudock has more passing yards than Stave too, but I wouldn't put much stalk into that as Iowa needs to pass more than Wisconsin.
The first major point of separation comes in terms of rushing yards. Rudock has more rushing yards. Rudock has rushed for 139 yards and 5 TD's. Stave has negative rushing yards and 1 rushing TD.
All of the facts above, combined with the reality that Stave has not separated himself significantly from Rudock with his inherited advantages, points to the fact that Rudock is the better quarterback. Now go get your shine box.
