Vikings stadium bill

BSpringsteen said:
All take place in arena's, not football stadiums.

Football stadiums are almost never able to be used as multi purpose facilities because there are so few that can justify that size.

That is why arena's are better bets.
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Bon Jovi sold north of 50k seats on back to back nights at Soldier. U2 also sold it out, but the number of acts that can do that is slim. And in Minneapolis it's prolly really slim bince Lawrence Welk passed away.
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
high school playoffs and tournaments, college tournaments and games, recreation shows, etc etc etc

As for studies "proving" economic benefit...shoot me an email when the rest of government spending (even though this is quite different if it's in the form of a loan, specific tax or user fees) is subject to these standards. I'll throw the party.
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The MetroDump will be fine to host the Minnesota HS playoffs and the boat and gun shows for the foreseeable future.
 
DuffMan said:
prince would sell eleventy vagillion tickets to an event in Minneapolis
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True, but what if you built it and then he died like Michael Jackson did and then you had to go Tupac style to have him perform? Then would he still sell that many tickets?
 
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So when did the Vikings become 3rd on the priority list? Goophers and Twins get new cribs, but the Vikings can't? Good chunk of the financing for both places came from public funds.
 
When they move to LA I just hope they do the right thing and leave the name like the Oilers and Browns did.

Someday they are going to figure out how to build stadiums that also have other revenue streams, residential, retail, office, etc.
 
trj said:
So when did the Vikings become 3rd on the priority list? Goophers and Twins get new cribs, but the Vikings can't? Good chunk of the financing for both places came from public funds.
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Talk to any business owner in MPLS. They have a huge sales tax issue in that town because of it.
 
If anyone is interested in how this can be done the right way, check out AEG's LA Live.

They bought up all the land by the Staples Center, built two world class hotels, a theatre and a concert venue and put a gazillion restaurants down there.

Now they are going to privately finance a football stadium that is going to do nothing but dramatically increase the rents of all of their tenants and the room occupancy of their hotels. Then they are going to rebuild the ******* convention center.

All of this in a part of town that even when Staples was built was a giant **** hole.

The way to pay for a stadium is not to have the public pay for it, except for maybe land donations. The way to do it is to have a private real estate developer pay for it and to make their money off their adjacent investments.
 
I will never forget Jesse Ventura during the senate subcommittee hearings on baseball, when they asked him about building a new stadium with taxpayer money. He likened it to a public library. If they use public money to build a library, the taxpayers get to come and use the library at no cost, because they paid for it. If they build a stadium, they get to pay for tickets to get in and then get charged $8 for a hot dog.

Ventura is a kook, but it was funny watching him make Bud Selig sweat. I know NFL teams bring a lot of money into a city, but I don't see how Minneapolis could justify it with the Twins new digs and their budget shortfall.
 
CAARHawk said:
When they move to LA I just hope they do the right thing and leave the name like the Oilers and Browns did.

Someday they are going to figure out how to build stadiums that also have other revenue streams, residential, retail, office, etc.
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Bud Adams refused to leave the name "Oilers" for the city of Houston, showing he truly is an a-hole of grand proportions. That's why the Texans exist.
 
Roger Goodell and the NFL mafia, have found their ticket to LA. By By snow, hello sunshine. Vikings fans can say hello to the LA Earthquakes in 2013.
 
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The Earthquakes... I kinda like that name.

What's really funny about this, will be watching the Wisconsin folks just rip on the Minnesotans. (I don't have a dog in the fight, but it's fun watching it up close here in the Cities).

Consider this: Green Bay, Wisconsin can keep an NFL franchise...but Minneapolis/St Paul can't. Ouch.
 
Didn't Minneapolis learn their lesson on losing a major sports franchise 20 some years ago when the NHL's Northstars became the Dallas Stars? Not sure of the politics on that, but you would think that as a region, they would find a way, or help the team find a real estate partner.
 
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